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21/01/2013 7:24 pm  

I have woven seats with danish cord with only the usual difficulties, e.g. twisted cord, finding the correct nails, etc. I am, however, puzzled about how to weave the back of the chair, which has weaving n both sides. I don?t know how to get strarted, where to place the nails on the lower rail, which way to go with the cord and what to do after it looks around the toop rail. Someone posted a question about this in 2009 but I couldn?t find a response. Are there any photographs, articles or blogs that would be helpful or do you have any thoughts or suggestions? It would be most appreciated.
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22/01/2013 2:42 am  

I haven't done one of these
yet, but I would guess that you can't weave off the spool of cord on the backs of these. And by guess, I mean---I know you can't. There aren't any nails to hook onto so you have to just go around and around the thing with a cut length. This is how the seats on the CH23 are done. On the CH252 kyou have to tack the previous ends on the inside of a rail and then tack the ends of the new ones kind of on top of those---all as neatly and discreetly as possible.
But like I said, I haven't done a CH25 yet. However, there are a few photos online of the backs of these and all show an interruption of the weave pattern on the back, always to one side or the other. I don't know the significance of this but I'm sure it's key somehow.
Sorry I can't help more.
Oh, and I have not seen any online tutorials or anything in books about how to do this, though it's certainly possible that someone has published something somewhere.


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22/01/2013 9:36 pm  

Thank you, Spanky.
The reason I built the half-size model was so that I could try several approaches.(I had inadvertantly posted two separate messages. One had a photograph of a half-size model of the chair I plan to make. I don?t think you saw that.)
In the photograph you posted, and others that I saw, there is a hole on the very top and when I was able to zoom in on it there seemed to be cord going into or leaving the hole. I have no idea what it?s for.
I think that it is possible, for a fee, to get plans for the chair. For now, I?m going to try to figure it out for myself.
Thank you for your thoughts. I Think they will be helpful.
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17/11/2013 8:33 pm  

I know it's late, BUT
I just started working on one of these and figured out the variation in weave just looking at it and thinking--it's to hide the knots of the cut lengths as you weave across the front and then the back over and over. You can't pull off the spool to weave the back and front, as I stated above, so you have to have knots somewhere. I did snip just enough cord away to confirm this.
I haven't gotten to the slot issue yet but I'm sure that will be just as clear when I do. For the record, there's a slot in the bottom rail, too.


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17/11/2013 8:43 pm  

OH--haha
So of course Caleb James just recently published clear photos and excellent explanations of how and why this chair is woven the way it is!
His site has valuable information for anyone interested in seat weaving, by the way.
(The slots are so that you can do the weave variation in back to hide the knots but still have the front be uniform. It all seems so simple now...)
http://kapeldesigns.blogspot.com/2013/09/weaving-hans-wegners-ch25-photo...


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18/11/2013 3:36 pm  

Spanky, as usual, really...
Spanky, as usual, really good references. Thanks for all the practical info that has saved my bacon while reworking my chairs.


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18/11/2013 8:51 pm  

You're welcome. Here are a couple of
photos that illustrate what I'm talking about, just in case.
These are the back of the chair with the inside weaving cut away. Those long vertical strands are the other side of the ones that are threaded through the slot.
Second photo: pulling aside the vertical strands, you can see the knots in the horizontal strands.
Third photo: on the back, you end up with 8 vertical strands together--the four that are done separately and then the two on either side that are part of the regular pattern that continues on the front. It's pretty ingenious.
I think the extra over-under every 5 inches or so is just to keep the 8 from getting bunched up.
The slot in the upper and lower rails is more than twice as wide as the width of 4 strands of cord so you have a lot of leeway as to where you can start the group of four strands but on this chair it was closer to the side than the middle of the chair.


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15/12/2021 9:00 pm  

HI
I know it has been a long time since this post was first created, but I wonder if you could provide the images that are now missing from your post above - if you still have them of course.
Thanks


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15/12/2021 11:20 pm  

@m4r3x5p3ctr0n, It's been a long while since @spanky has posted here but, in the past, she has reliably responded to the Bat Signal.

I hope it works this time. It would be nice to hear from one of the Forum's most helpful, experienced, and respected long-time members...


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16/12/2021 12:37 am  

@m4r3x5p3ctr0n - I don't think these are the same photos I posted years ago but they're all I've got at this time. 

I haven't woven one of these in at least five years and I would be hard pressed to give exact instructions now.  I figure things out visually most of the time and trying to put it into words even if I remembered exactly how it is done is a bit taxing!

I did write out some instructions back then---maybe this was one of the photos that was posted at the time.  I hope it's helpful.  I found that the best thing was to look at the original weave but if that's gone on your chair then it's not much help.  Good luck.

https://flic.kr/p/2mQV4XC

https://flic.kr/p/2mQZzCf

https://flic.kr/p/2mQYoLS


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16/12/2021 10:27 am  
Posted by: user_232

@m4r3x5p3ctr0n - I don't think these are the same photos I posted years ago but they're all I've got at this time. 

I haven't woven one of these in at least five years and I would be hard pressed to give exact instructions now.  I figure things out visually most of the time and trying to put it into words even if I remembered exactly how it is done is a bit taxing!

I did write out some instructions back then---maybe this was one of the photos that was posted at the time.  I hope it's helpful.  I found that the best thing was to look at the original weave but if that's gone on your chair then it's not much help.  Good luck.

https://flic.kr/p/2mQV4XC

https://flic.kr/p/2mQZzCf

https://flic.kr/p/2mQYoLS

Hello, are you @Spanky ?

I can help you to find back your original account. 

Sincerely, Elizabeth

 


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Spanky
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16/12/2021 4:45 pm  

Yes, that's me--my login didn't work yesterday for some reason.  It's ok now.  


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16/12/2021 9:33 pm  

@spanky Hey Spanky! Great to know you’re still around! What are you up to these days? Kind of miss you.

"People buy a chair, and they don't really care who designed it." (Arne Jacobsen)


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Spanky
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16/12/2021 9:39 pm  

Hi!  

I'm still weaving chair seats but phasing it out.  I don't really have the room to work on that kind of thing in my little condo.  I quit doing upholstery 6+ (??) years ago though I redid an Overman sofa a year or two ago for one of my kids but only because I got to work on it at her house!  

I'm having loads of fun selling on Etsy now--midcentury-ish collectibles and housewares with a Scandinavian focus, sort of.  Mostly things I would own myself if I had unlimited space to display and store things.  


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16/12/2021 10:24 pm  

@spanky Sounds like you have some time to check back more often! 😁 Honestly, it’s always nice to have you here. 

"People buy a chair, and they don't really care who designed it." (Arne Jacobsen)


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