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30/03/2009 10:35 pm  

Question, can anyone describe...
Question, can anyone describe the base of this Prouve table in more detail, how it attaches to the slab top, the materials for the base and top, the leg joinery, etc.
I could live so far in this thread with any of these suggestions, if I had the table, which I think would be more than pleasing paired with any number of iconic dining chair designs: Bertoia, Eames, Wegner ...


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31/03/2009 2:27 am  

EVEN
I draw the line at all mismatched chairs that has a very kindergarten feel to it .For some reason I think the orig proposal is a great blend as to color&form and I usually dont go for this look.I like Prouve but a whole room unless done by him in the period...no.I know SDRs proposal here is Prouve chairs,Prouve table and thats fine by me and quite correct...


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31/03/2009 9:08 am  

If I'm
not mistaken, hudson, all the black parts of the table are painted steel -- very typical for Prouvé, who started out as a metalworker, after all. . .


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31/03/2009 6:43 pm  

Thanks SDR, I've admired the...
Thanks SDR, I've admired the table but have never seen an original; and at $4000, will never have a new one. The angular folded steel, I imagine, makes it a bit difficult to produce. The top is stated as oak veneer, I think.
I'm guessing it's a pretty heavy/stable piece. A 'lighter' chair choice makes for an interesting contrast. Don't know where the mismatched idea came up. I need to re-read the post. I simply thought that the EM table could be pretty compatible/striking with the right matched set of non-Prouve chairs. As for the Wegner options shown here, I think I prefer the black frames.
But a set of Eames shells on eiffel bases might look good, or a set of Bertoia (black base, white seat) might look good, or ...


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01/04/2009 4:31 am  

sammyman, I have been in...
sammyman, I have been in almost the same situation, only I wanted to use the EM Table as a desk and it was the dark stained version. After weeks of research, I ended up with the Eames DKR in black leather.
Had comfort not been issue, I would have picked the Standard chair. For the natural oak finish it is even harder to find good matches outside of the Prouvé catalogue, I think. So I am with SDR on this one.
The Wegner is a fantastic chair, but it and the EM Table differ a bit too much in materials, finish, character and overall design philosophy for my liking. On a more general level, I find it challenging to mix Prouvé with organic MCM. His style is rather unique, which is why I love it. That is not to say it can't be done. And if you are happy with the mix, then that is all that matters.
Good luck!


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01/04/2009 4:57 am  

hudson, the second photo...
hudson, the second photo was an attempt show more detail.
SDR is right in that it is spray painted metal. The base frame is welded and bolted together. It attaches to the top by massive screws, four at each leg if I remember correctly (the table is no longer with me).
I think the design of the base changed at some point back in time, but other than that and as far as I know all the Vitra reissues are reasonably true to their originals (except that many variants are missing).
The current version is available in natural or dark brown stained oak veneer. Photos don't really do justice to the unusually heavily textured and very lovely grain of the veneer, which is applied on the underside as well.
It is a fabulous table.


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01/04/2009 9:21 am  

For some reason the eiffel...
For some reason the eiffel tower bases with the Prove table...dont match, yet sort of match.I can even see many non design people actually thinking the same person designed them together...and thats not good...


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01/04/2009 6:36 pm  

Gustaf, thanks for that...
Gustaf, thanks for that photo of the underside detail. I'd like to see one of these up close some day. Photos of the early tables I've seen in Wright, Phillips, etc., show some of those great different top/base configurations, as well as the stretcher change, which appears to have gone from a bracketed connection at the leg to the through-tenon design of your photo.
I think I recall reading somewhere that, during part of WWII, the legs were produced in wood rather than steel. Is this correct?
While the table seems to 'work' with several chair choices, I think I am leaning toward the thought that the Prouve/Prouve matching would be the best.
Not to throw a wrench in things, but as impressive as the Em table is, I think I actually like the Granito table more.


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