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whitespike
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23/02/2010 8:45 pm  

Yea, I still wanna see the...
Yea, I still wanna see the Ikea LCWs! Particleboard DMCs? HA!


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schef MCM
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26/07/2010 5:55 am  

The wood
A real eames lounge 670 has 7 layers of wood, it has never changed over the years
i counted yours it has 8, im sorry this isnt a herman miller version, also the armrests are far to thick.


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Modern Love
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26/07/2010 7:29 am  

not exactly
Herman Miller used 5 layers of plywood on the early rosewood chairs. Newer HM production use 7 layers.
This chair however is still a fake.


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 SDR
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26/07/2010 7:43 am  

All plywood
has an odd number of layers -- 3,5,7,9 etc. This is the only way for the two outer layers to have grain running in the same direction.


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Yago7
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26/07/2010 3:33 pm  

The lounge chair used to be available in naugahyde and fabric as well, at least the original HM licensed European version was.


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junkharvest
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31/07/2010 9:11 am  

Plycraft or Eames?
I'm selling this for $200 tomorrow morning. I usually collect and sell electronics. I'm out of my league here. I believe it's a Plycraft. It does have the 5 star base on the chair. It at one time had a label on the bottom that has since been removed. It has a tilt mechanism. I believe. The ottoman base has 4 star. Help dudes! It's a plycraft right?


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Olive
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31/07/2010 10:19 am  

You're selling the lounge?
and not the gawdawful sofa? Really? Wow!


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bog360
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04/08/2010 4:59 am  

The ottoman
I'm interested in an Eames chair and ottoman now and trying to gather all the information I can in order to prove its authenticity (or lack thereof). I know the chair is put together with clips, no visible screws or bolts anywhere. This does apply to the ottoman as well, correct? Does anyone have a picture of an authentic clip? Thanks for any information.


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ricbear
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04/08/2010 5:17 am  

selling lounge
If your serious on selling how can you be reached


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Poach
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04/08/2010 9:02 am  

Olive, you crack me up.
And Junkharvester, dump the fake Eames chair AND the couch.


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nautipuss
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08/08/2010 12:15 am  

FYI
The latest versions have 7 layers and older versions have 5 layers. Not sure of the actual time frame on when that changed--mine is from 1996 and has 5 layers.


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Damon-Eugene
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24/10/2010 3:29 am  

Good fake?
I'm sure I will offend many with my question. I love many of they mid-c style, but *I* don't need for pieces to be originals. Can any one point me to reasonably priced and quality? I was looking at the Herman Miller Eames Lounge and Ottoman Black Leather and Cherry shell and was looking for the Black Leather Barcelona Chair and Ottoman. Can any one provide with sources that at least good and reasonable cost product?


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fastfwd
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24/10/2010 4:22 am  

Good fakes.
Charlton made a decent copy of the Eames Lounge, but it's been out of production for many years so it's not very easy to find. Some of the newer Chinese knockoffs are getting quite good, too, although they're priced accordingly: $1000-$1500 or so.
Alphaville's Barcelona chair is good and currently available.


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LuciferSum
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24/10/2010 8:55 pm  

Gargage
The answer to the question is no. At least regarding the Eames Lounge & Ottoman. I've seen dozens and dozens of copies and they are all garbage. Not for lack of trying, it's just a complicated chair to make.
The best one I saw was a recent Chinese copy - and from the ad on craigslist I SWORE it was real. From the grainy little picture all the proportions appeared correct, the wood looked okay.
And that's really the problem - the first glances look okay. It's the close ups that give it away. It took all of 2 seconds looking at the chair in person to know it was bad. The leather was crappy, the texture was bad. The wood wasn't cherry - it was ash veneer with reddish stain gobbed on it. The base was wrong.
In all, the chair could have passed for a movie prop, but for something to use every day and actually enjoy?
If you're going to spend 1500$ on a copy you might as well chip in 500 more and get a decent used original. And I say this solely on quality.


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NULL NULL
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24/10/2010 9:51 pm  

Agree
If you can "afford" to spend $1500 on a knock-off, then you can "afford" to spend a few hundred more for authentic (new or vintage).


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