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05/08/2007 9:03 am  

Mmm, yummy --
I like brick.
Yes, Mark, this is an idea that goes back a ways. It emulates one of my favorite exterior details: the (masonry) walls of the house, rising from a "pool" or "moat" of crushed rock. In both cases, the "pool" wants to be at a slightly lower plane than the floor (lawn). . .


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05/08/2007 9:42 am  

IN all honesty, I would be so...
IN all honesty, I would be so tempted to paint the exterior brick of LRF's fab home perhaps a pale shade of white, to simpify the lines abit. But then I've always been a fan of painted brick. What a wonderful home, nontheless. Would painting such a treasure be as tragic as painting say, an Eames lounge?


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06/08/2007 7:06 am  

Mark
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thanks for your suggestions. I am always looking to do something
When i moved in 10 months ago i was wanting to paint the Brick or redo it. but since i have been living with it on the inside and outside I have decided to keep it It has grown on me.
I am going toredo the the original shed room on the side of the house which was part of the original drive through garage .. you can see it when you drive up currently it is in a painted redwood grey I am going to do it all in crap apple ledge stone this will be on three sides. Frank Lloyd Wright worked with ledge stone and I found just what i was looking for and the stone mason will be at the house on Sept 2
I am also thinking of going 2 shades darker to a deeper shade on the paint. but the bid was 12 grand for painting . I wish they would have left the house like i remember it 40 years ago when i was a kid. It was California red wood with a stain the couple who bought the house in the early 70's were two Korean Doctors and they did have a flare for the Asian influence .
I did spend the better part of 6 months completely redoing the interior to how wright, Neutra, Noyes, Breuer would have done it , and now I am off to redo the exterior . Unfortntaly they have what is know in the Architectural world as celestial windows to reaching almost 40 ft, and i hate to admit it the seals have broken after 44 years and they all need to be replaced for a nice 25 grand so as you can see i am trying not be in the money pit 2 but at the end it truly is a great house and a work of art.
Thanks so much for your suggestions . if you want to see some more pictures go to my website www.retroredo.com


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06/08/2007 7:14 am  

mark
On your other question i hate to say Painting a Eames lounge would be sac religious especially if it were rosewood or cherry ..
Now as i am saying this next you will hear that Herman miller will be coming out with 8 colors of painted Lounge chairs for Eames 100th birthday.
I bought the yellowLCW chair and I love it. I have seen the Eames in Black painted ebony when i was at a home in England last summer and it was very nice it had cream leather and had a good look , the owner said he bought it that way
15 years ago from the London company named Hille that sold the Lounge chairs in England.


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06/08/2007 7:25 am  

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06/08/2007 7:27 am  

mark
I don't know if i made my self that clear here are two pics for the front and side that i am going to redo in the ledge stone , It will break up the grey


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08/08/2007 1:17 am  

alix
alix did we get the posting of pictures worked out yet and is there anyone other than photbucket that you know might work ,


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08/08/2007 3:32 am  

LRF, Your home just smokes! ...
LRF, Your home just smokes! I'm not entirely clear what you mean by ledge stone? I really like the vertical siding. Don't go messin' with the home's "bones".


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08/08/2007 4:00 am  

i have thought long and ...
i have thought long and hard about it. that is indeed vertical siding and redwood, that the previous couple painted, the biggest problem right there is that there is sprinklers and it completely waters the woodsiding twice a day causing it to peel real bad,
the ledge stone was used in Frank Lloyd Wrights Fallingwater and I think that it will look great in that one area only to break things up from all the wood .
I hear you about messing with the bones, When we bought the house a year ago we had to wait to close for 2 months and my wife and drove by always saying what we wanted to change on the outside and inside , we pretty much just painted and put new maple floors in but we left the brick on the inside as the outside cause once we got in we really loved it and it really gave us the feel of a Frank Lloyd Wright original home here in Tulsa called Westhope designed by wright for his cousin Richard Lloyd Jones now owned by Barbra Tyson of the Tyson Chicken company in Arkansas ( she has stayed in the home 6 times in 6 years since she bought the home,


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08/08/2007 4:53 am  

LRF
I love your house. Even though I have mentioned in the other thread that I am in favor of neutral furniture etc. I think you have done your style justice.


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08/08/2007 7:40 am  

LRF
I love that you have rescued your house from an uncertain fate, and that you (both) have put so much energy and love into it. Good work. Yes, it is too bad that the wood was painted -- but you're doing the right thing, replacing windows and other necessities. Everything you've done looks great.
I'm also interested to hear about the stone discovery. How wonderful it would be to be able to do a complete project with this material, and make a good attempt at recreating that incredible texture that Wright was able to get. I would be glad to provide photos of some of his examples (they vary quite a bit, as you know) if it would help. But I must object to the mixing of stone and brick on the same small building. The tradition of masonry, observed at almost all points in history including the Modern, has been to use a uniform masonry material throughout any one structure. Since you have grown to like your brick, I encourage you and your mason to save the stone for your next house, and to search out a matching brick to use in your current project.
All my best regards to you for a lovely house, inside and out ! Congratulations -- SDR


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08/08/2007 8:05 am  

sdr thanks
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thanks for the information I got my idea from the book the Harvard five I saw homes by John Johansen, Phillip Johnson,Eliot Noyes Marcel Breuer, Landis Gores but my favorite was John Black Lee my home is the closest to the homes that he designed and that is where i got the idea . I have visited several of the homes that wright did in the later years and he did use both the stone and the brick, so that is where i got the idea to use just a small amount to give it a accent, I wish the original architect would have used the stone in 1964 but he used red brick I do agree with you somewhat and you are properly right, I have labored with this situation now for 4 months trying to get it right and keep it true to form, but even thoe i have the opportunity I sorta want to make my mark on this house , like i said i did have grandiose ideas of changing the brick to stone, then totally painting it another color then painting the wood a deeper color . I love the style I don't like what the previous couple did to the original redwood that i remember as a 18 year old (painted grey from a
a redwood) I and i do not want to spend over 75,000 to change the wood as I will be spending 25,000 to put new windows in and and 10 grand to redo the paint job, I love every one that has responded to my house as that is what this forum is all about , now i am really confused as what to do. cause every one makes good sense and has good ideas .


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08/08/2007 8:51 am  

Any chance of removing the wo...
Any chance of removing the wood and flipping the backside forward...stain properly, then tweek the landscape/irrigation system? I really like the wood.


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08/08/2007 9:06 am  

interesting idea!
interesting idea!


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08/08/2007 9:07 am  

mark
now that is a idea about flipping the wood I would have never thought about that one, I will have the guy who has been working on the house to see if we can flip the wood and would not be cost prohibitive, we assume that it would be perfect on the reserve side, I was told we do not want to strip it cause it would cost way to much The sprinklers can be removed and they need to be cause they do ruin the wood really bad, Thanks for your ideas


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