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14/05/2019 1:13 am  

Had the time to get some more pics and start a thread outside of the Last Thing Acquired one  😀 Thanks again for the work that’s been done already in researching this! 

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14/05/2019 1:20 am  

More pics

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14/05/2019 1:25 am  

More pics 

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14/05/2019 3:04 pm  

I assume that Bjarne Madsen and Hans Thyge Schubell and Ib Madsen and Acton Schubell are identical. Of course I didn't find proof although I dug a little. Their business in Hvidore is only ever referred to as Madsen og Schubell snedkerie. But the furniture which is associated to all the names is basically the same.

My guess: They just changed their names for whatever reasons. Maybe for marketing reasons? Fun fact: Acton is not the most comon name. Among the few known people and personae with this name is Acton Bell -  which was the pseudonym of the 19th century novelist Anne Brontë. Maybe Hans Thyge Schubell was an avid reader of Victorian literature? Sorry if I'm just rambling ...

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14/05/2019 4:32 pm  

Now that is interesting. So their names are Bjarne and Hans Thyge?  Where in the world did someone find Ib and Acton? I wonder if some seller invented the names and people have just been repeating them now since that is what they see on the internet (guilty as charged)?


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14/05/2019 4:39 pm  

Oh and this recliner is Afrormosia not teak.


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14/05/2019 4:54 pm  

the articleifound  http://www.albertusperk.nl/eigenperk-artikelen/2016-1%20Van%20den%20Bovenkamp%20Stijlmeubelen.pdf

is by arnold wetjes lector at academy"? for culturalheritage he wrote on the ceramist Colenbrander and architecture in hilversum is a curator at amuseum He researched Bovenkamp because there was not much knowledge he names aksel bender madsen and Hans Thyge Schubell His article looksolid to me

https://deskgram.net/p/1927647356922999136_4102221821   The dealer Walhalla who posted this  has the original catalogue of Bovenkamp as you can see who sold this 'line' under that name you see the litte B of bovenkmap on each photo He walhala sels bovenkamp using the name aksel bender madsen  and he could know since he has the original catalogue I know him as reliable from a earlier discussion via mail about a Chair for Noodrwolde wich i thought to be Noordwolde given the resemblance with Rudolf Wolf chairs for noordwolde (of wich i have foto's of original catalogues and foto's of the chairs themself since i researched the Rudolf wolf archive) and he showed me they were not without any iterest (belang) so i have 2 reasons not to doubt his atribution

both madsen or schubell are not dutch so i know no more then i showed

maarten

 


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14/05/2019 4:59 pm  

 Not sure I can change the title of the thread but thanks for wood type correction 👍🏼👍🏼


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14/05/2019 5:12 pm  

@leif-ericson

Link below to instagram/deskgram post; A bit hard to decipher, as I think it is written by someone whose first language is not English or it has been translated and something has been "lost in translation". 

https://deskgram.net/p/1924622104466866800_9182475231

I notice you have liked this posting or they like you!!

Maybe you could ask them to clarify the name conundrum/confusion re; Madsen and Schubell, as I do not have an instagram account.

Lexi.

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14/05/2019 6:44 pm  

@ all interested parties.

Image of a  Furniture Forum catalogue showing a George Tanier advert. Notice Madsen and Schubell as designers with MS 6 as an item / possibly model number   ( NB:different chairs to OP's)

Lexi.

 

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14/05/2019 7:05 pm  

Me again; (seriously!the editing window is very short)

I have found a few closed auctions for chairs attributed to Madsen and Schubell. They have the same patent number, as on Ponyboy's chair, on the tilt mechanism and one also has the "Made in Denmark by MS label sewn into the upholstery. Reposting image from other thread of label.

In the meantime, I have fired off a couple of e-mails to a number of websites/bloggers who might be able to give more info; will let you know if I get replies.

Lexi.

 

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14/05/2019 9:07 pm  

I contacted some Schubells in Denmark. Maybe I find someone from the family. I let you know.

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15/05/2019 8:12 pm  

More internet based info.

At some stage in the past I bookmarked this page from the internet; usefull to have to hand !!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ad_symphoniam/sets/72157622132873798/

And from that site I found this logo;

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ad_symphoniam/3875609802/in/gallery-131074029@N04-72157652586583071/

Another piece of the puzzle that is "Madsen and Schubell".

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15/05/2019 10:33 pm  

Image of above logo; 

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16/05/2019 2:26 pm  

The Schubell family got back to me. I still don't know much, but what I can say is: Schubell's first name was neither Hans Thyge nor Acton. It was Henry. His son wrote there were no designers with said names under the Madsen and Schubell brand.

I asked for further information and will let you know if I have more. Maybe I start another thread then?

"People buy a chair, and they don't really care who designed it." (Arne Jacobsen)


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