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leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
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18/07/2020 3:36 am  

As to the supposed France & Daverkosen prototype, we should be very skeptical.  DKHV often showed furniture by someone displayed at a certain store, but it requires knowledge of what is what to be 100% certain that all the furniture in the image is by the people mentioned.  And in this case it seems extraordinarily odd that some of the furniture is by one pair named Madsen & Larsen and the chair is by an entirely different Madsen & Larsen.  

So on that evidence I would say that the chair is most likely a Bender Madsen & Ejnar Larsen design.  I believe the chair and sofa were made by Pontoppidan, but maybe Beck.  Regardless, the most likely situation is that the whole seating suite shares the same design/maker.  

The other reason to disbelieve France & Daverkosen is that the company started out making mattresses and moved into the furniture business in relation to that, hence the prevalence of loose cushions, which were essentially mini-mattresses.  And beyond that Charles France was all about mechanized woodworking but this chair looks absolutely nothing like that at all.  Early France and Søn stuff looks absolutely nothing like this. Nothing.  So the manufacturer credit is implausible in the extreme.  


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19/07/2020 11:56 am  

@leif-ericson 🤣 You are absolutely right. I didn’t bother to look up the other pieces in the picture and also didn’t bother to think about whether a France & Daverkosen attribution makes sense. Doesn’t make sense at all for the reasons you wrote. And France never used paper cord to my knowledge. 
But how did Mobilia come up with such an attribution? (If they did)

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19/07/2020 12:01 pm  

And by the way, now also here: The so called „Fire chair“ is not by Kai Kristiansen. I will also update the „Not by Kai Kristiansen“ thread.

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30/09/2020 8:45 pm  

It has been a while. Hope you are all keeping sane and well.

While looking for info on the AX chair posted earlier I searched through old threads on DA.

This thread by @leif- ericson, from 2013, popped up;

http://old.designaddict.com/forum/General-discussion/Johs-Aasbjerg-Excellent-Furniture-Co-Catalog-1960-90-pages-complete.

On page 4, (post #155) :-a picture of a curved back chair which I have never seen.

No info apart from No.20. Design v/93. Even Leif could only hazard a guess as to whom the "v" refers to.

Maybe 7 years later it might be recognised by someone. 🤨 

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ps; I must say I enjoyed reading the full thread; one of the few where the images are still visible !!

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03/11/2021 5:22 pm  
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I was going to add this one to the reference thread @lexi started but I cannot find documentation other than a number of seller attributions.  I found about 8 separate listings, including a Quittenbaum auction sale, that all attribute this chair to Aksel Bender Madsen and Ejner Larsen.  None of them, however, shows a label or mark, or lists a maker.  So I thought I'd post here and see if anyone knows anything more or can find documentation before we add to it to the list

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@mark737. While researching Nova Mobler came across the same chairs for sale. No label shown but they state they are made by Nova .

Whether this is true or not is anyones guess but if ,as a seller, you are going to randomly assign a manufacturer Nova Mobler would be a strange choice . On the other hand they are not well known so maybe a clever move.

Further digging required methinks ! 🧐 

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03/11/2021 6:18 pm  

@lexi  I saw those on 1stDibs too.  I went to the seller's website and they have them listed there as designed by Aksel Bender Madsen for an unknown manufacturer.  So my guess is the Nova attribution on 1stDibs is an error.  I will contact them and see what they say. 


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03/11/2021 6:23 pm  

@mark737. Will be interesting to see what they have to say.

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05/11/2021 1:02 am  

@lexi I emailed the dealer asking about the discrepancy between the two listings and the owner was a bit evasive about it.  After two emails all I could get from him is that they believe they were designed by Aksel Bender Madsen and no mention of Nova.  I asked if there were any marks or tags, or how they determined ABM was the designer, and he avoided both questions.   I think you might be right about them wanting to list an obscure Danish maker no one would question.  $5,900 on 1stDibs and $4,100 on their website for set of six. Good luck with that.  


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05/11/2021 7:21 am  

@mark737. Thank you for doing that. So this chair is still a mystery and will continue to languish in the "unverified" section. 

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05/11/2021 8:55 am  

The shape of the seat alone makes me think that this was made by a lesser known furniture factory for cheap. Whatever it is, Nova sounds way more reasonable than Aksel Bender Madsen.

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03/04/2022 4:08 pm  

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06/01/2024 3:19 pm  

One more unverified chair ; images courtesy of @dustdevil.

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02/02/2024 8:53 pm  

A set of these is up for auction near me and while there are plenty of examples online, apparently they are all unmarked since none listed a designer or maker.  Similar to the Hong and Anderstrup models, and a Dyrlund model I just posted to the verified list.  

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02/02/2024 9:03 pm  

Could be everything, even a newly produced mid century look alike. I’ve never come across this model. Do you think it’s teak? Walnut? Something else? The legs look stained.

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mark737
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02/02/2024 9:21 pm  

Most of the ones I saw listed them as teak. Here's one listed as Rosewood and a brighter shot of a set listed as teak. 

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