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| RE: question about restoring a Madsen chair | 1 Relevance | 5 years ago | leif ericson - Zephyr Renner | Repair | |
| I guess the other thing to say about Hans Wegner’s design and CM Madsen is that if you look at who he worked for from say 1949 to 1959 (roughly) there are really two names: Salesco and Johannes Hansen. Now we are accustomed to think of the Salesco companies: Carl Hansen, Andreas Tuck, AP Stolen, RY Møbler, and Getama as separate companies, but that is not how it worked back then. Hans designed for Salesco and the individual companies piled their resources for marketing. Getama was sort of the odd one that made “factory” furniture and did not participate in the marketing fully (I could check but I think that Getama did its own domestic marketing). And I do not think this is just random coincidence. E. Kold Christensen was a very, very smart furniture salesman and I think that he had Hans Wegner on an exclusive contract to Salesco with an exception built in for Johannes Hansen. I do not know how the CM Madsen chair happened at all, but that it did was “exceptional” in some sort of way. I think it was in 1954 that it was designed. I have a document that shows this and the ultra rare original version (I could check). In other words, Hans Wegner was not a freelance designer who just designed for anyone like say Johannes Andersen or Kai Kristiansen (which has made them ideal targets for false attributions). So the question of why the CM Madsen chair happened is actually a very good one. I do not believe the contours of the question or the answer have anything to do with the quality of CM Madsen’s production (that was taken for granted). It has everything to do with who else he was designing for, when, what, for what market, the production budget of CM Madsen. Unfortunately much of that is probably irretrievably lost to history. | |||||
| Hi Maja, | 1 Relevance | 12 years ago | Starline | General discussion | |
| Hi Maja, If the inside of your hostel is as nice as the outside then consider yourself lucky with a perfect opportunity.You cannot beat starting off with an ornate heritage interior space. While the Chesterfields do need a bit of space for scale they can look hot with many styles.Forget this idea about strictly old world charm that first comes to mind.I would recommend to go straight to eclectic,funky and fabulous. The first image is one of my favourites but you should get my drift.I am not in design and no expert but I would paint the place first,place the Chesterfields and work from there.Rug,coffee table and work outwards type thing. Don't rush to buy stuff and remember an old chair or wooden box found on the street is better and has more character than anything from Ikea or the like.If many pieces are old you should throw in something super contemporary and or colourful for impact and some good size plants. Don't forget we appreciate images on DA and would like to see your final look once done. | |||||
| Scam alert for dealers... | 1 Relevance | 15 years ago | Killian | General discussion | |
| I received an email recently from the UAE asking to buy 10 lamps of a one off design I'm selling, they then agreed to buy one lamp and added a set of chairs...total order inc shipping 4000 stg...they agreed immediately and asked for bank details. I was busy when I got the initial enquirey so I did no background checks but today I had a look online and realised its a scam. They place the order and then send a bank transfer, then they cancel half the order and ask for funds to be returned...before the bank realises the whole thing is a scam and takes everything back. The address given will be Al Istigal Street, Qasmia, Sharjah United Arab Emirate. so far i've seen street numbers 17, 27 and 47 associated with the scam....they seem to like 7s maybe they're lucky. The email address will be either hotmail or gmail and the like and not one associated with a domain name. The text of the order will read something like this....probably word for word...lazy scammers...... "Good day to you there! Haven gone through your company's profile accordingly, we would need you get back to us with the items you have instock has our attention for an immediate purchase of items from the United kingdom : Kindly supply detailed information on items you have instock with applicable prices not forgetting to give a shipping quote/advise too down to United Arab Emirates(UAE). Will be glad to read from you soon. Regards, blah blah blah Company L.L.C 17, Al Istiqal Street Qasmia, Sharjah United Arab Emirate. Email: " Be careful. | |||||
| I totally agree with you... | 1 Relevance | 22 years ago | mwood5 | General discussion | |
| I totally agree with you... I totally agree with you austin. A lot of opinions on the merits of non-knoll chairs vs. the real thing, but hardly any real facts. A few that say they bought one from so-and-so, but my guess is they're employees of said company. As far as the differences of the knoll vs non-knoll...if we can even call it that. From what I've been able to uncover is this: 1. There are a few different manufacturers making barcelona's. 2. Some are trying to copy the knoll and some are just shooting for a close approximation. 3. Even the knoll chair seems to not conform to the original measurements that Mies used. (if we believe the measurements from that modernfurnitureclassics.com chart) 4. It looks like Italy and China are the two locations where the chairs are made. My guess is that they're making them for everyone...even knoll. Maybe knoll specifies better leather and cushions, but that's a different story. So, I'm a bit more informed than I was, but still no where near what I thought I'd be after a bit of research. As to some of the arguments for buying a "real" knoll and the justification of their ridiculous price. It's furniture that I plan on using, sitting in, drinking wine in, entertaining in, etc. It's not an investment. If it were, I'd look for a 50 year old original. A new piece of furniture is never, ever going to be an investment. If you think so, well...keep thinking.... Now, if we were talking about a new, fresh modern designer here that only sold their stuff through knoll or HM. Sure, pay the difference and get a real one. You're paying for the design and helping out a designer. But in this chair's case, it's a 75 year old design where the designer has been dead for years. The exclusive rights to the design have long expired. There is no reason why they/knoll should say that theirs is still the only "real" one and the the others are knockoffs. Who are they paying to put that Mies stamp on them anyway? His estate? Do they own his name somehow? Anyway...I'm about to just order a pair....probably Alphaville...maybe Modernfurnitureclassics.....it really seems like they're the same chair from the same manufacturer. Believe me, I will post results of what I think and found after I get it. later, m | |||||
| It would seem that contempt4n... | 1 Relevance | 16 years ago | whitespike | General discussion | |
| It would seem that contempt4n... It would seem that contempt4narrowminds is a seller of these unfortunate victims of restyling. Sure, design appreciation, or whatever you said is in the eye of the purchaser. That's not a shocking fact. They bought it. Appreciating something doesn't make it good. The idea that design is only subjective is silly, however. There is good and bad design. People like to do this to music too. It's fun for people to think of anything that is for entertainment or enjoyment, a luxury you'd say, as a personal thing whose merit is only measured by the one who enjoys it. People say this about art too. But the fact is, while these goods are widely enjoyed by the general public, there are professionals in these fields with the education and experience to have an educated opinion. I am perfectly at peace knowing that I do not have an educated opinion on airplane design. I guess I would know when I think one LOOKS cool to me, but that is a very shallow part of the equation of what makes a plane "good.". Many things are involved in decided whether or not an airplane is "good." I suppose I would need to know a little history on airplanes, I would need to know about how they are constructed and how they function, among many things. Purchasing something doesn't give you the ability to label something's design quality. If anything it clouds it with bias. The fact is, these pieces are adorned with coverings and finishes that are inappropriate to their design. Fussy fabrics on clean lined modernist furniture. Paint hiding the beauty of the natural materials being used. The use of so many colored panels that makes a simple design look too busy. This is bad. Some things actually aren't opinions. I think most any professional designer would agree. The truth is in numbers. Why not compare a Kia to a BMW because you like the color and shape. I'm sure a mechanic could tell you a little about their differences under the hood. | |||||
| nope | 1 Relevance | 19 years ago | LRF | General discussion | |
| nope nothing from HM as they never used wheels on anything other than chairs, and secreataial file cabints designed by George Nelson I have one in my office, does not even look like Nelson other than the PrimaVera color , I think the neat thing about this forum between Barry,Whitespike , myself and a few others it is pretty easy for us to spot what is NOT....... some one should email the dude who has that up on the web and tell him not to waste our time if he does not have a clue who really makes it, instead of thinking there is some dummy out there who will say yes that is the ticket ..... if you don't know what it is simply say i have no idea but don't jack inocent people around saying it early Herman Miller George Nelson, Here is what the guy says Where are the labels did some kid take them off??? Rare George Nelson/Herman Miller Cabinet - 1960s Rare George Nelson cabinet manufactured by the Herman Miller Company. Date: 1960s; Dimensions: 29"h x 20-1/2"w x 17-1/2"d. Medium/Materials: Teak wood; aluminum pulls; aluminum frame; perforated aluminum backplate; brushed cast aluminum pole-feet w/ steel and industrial-grade nylon wheels; formica top; aluminum drawers; and reinforced enameled steel cross beam support/base underneath for added stability; Condition: good vintage condition, some minor dings here and there, but ready to go. Recently given a good cleaning. This rare cabinet was manufactured briefly in the 1960s, then discontinued. Will make a great printer cabinet with good storage for paper, pens, stapler, etc. | |||||
| Oh Hudsonhonu, you're speaking my language! | 1 Relevance | 19 years ago | Olive | General discussion | |
| Oh Hudsonhonu, you're speaking my language! these days I find less and less I want to comment on when the posts run to discussions about endless stuff and who has the more authentic LeCorbu-chewed pencil or some other equally meaningless thing. Meanwhile the planet is getting eaten alive for the production of useless stuff. And don't even get me started on the clamshell packaging that all the useless items come packaged in. Who needs a spice gun for heavens sake...use one of Koen's lovely mortar and pestles, a hand made item that improves on a design that humans have used for eons! No need for a 'uni-tasker'. We are awash in crap, especially here in the US-- I, for one, am more and more disgusted by it. I asked my local grocery not to give me 2 plastic bags and a paper wrap for one small piece of salmon and I was told, sorry we are required to do this for sanitation reasons! So to buy my dinner I must create a ridiculous amount of waste. Lately I've been managin to get the fellow to reduce it by one plastic bag. But it's that sort of mindless consumption that really makes me angry. We've become so complacent. We want everything handed to us tied up with a bow. Folks don't think about where their food, energy or products come from and what it takes to get them to their homes. One of the things the industrial revolution did right was the idea of regional production. Wool was woven in areas that had cold weather, for example. Today in New England we have tons of abandoned Woolen Mills that sit empty while our clothing comes from China 1/2 way across the planet. Stupid. I hope we figure all this out soon...we're acting like viruses and killing our host. http://www.storyofstuff.com/index.html | |||||
| DCW, thank you for your eloquence, | 1 Relevance | 17 years ago | Olive | General discussion | |
| DCW, thank you for your eloquence, I think you give a very convincing explanation of why patents are vital and why they function as they do. The part about oligarchical control is the less pleasant end of it, but any Rule of Law will have negative consequences. The idea of the governing body benefiting first from a new technology is, I guess, a reasonable tradeoff for the overall benefit of development. I'm glad to see you so clearly demonstrate that patents exist to the initial preferential benefit of the patent holder. That point seems to be at the center of the rabid protectionism that folks here exhibit when it comes to classic modernist design. It seems not to be understood that the benefit was duly given to the designer, up front in his or her lifetime. Now it's society's turn, free market economies may now enjoy the ability to profit from the design. Caveat Emptor, my favorite saying, holds true during this time. Since the design is in the public domain, that means that people with lower standards and higher tendencies toward greed will make products that are unworthy of the original design. We, as educated consumers, have a responsibility not to enable these producers. But to think that the original designer or producer has not gotten their fair share and are somehow being ripped off by the existence of other suppliers is to deny the entire concept of a free market society. Which, in my viewpoint, is naivete' at it most ridiculous. Lastly, the oil thing scares the crap out of me. Ubiquitous oil means never ending CO2 release. Just because our planet might make oil (and that's to be debated) doesn't mean we should burn it if it's ultimately going to destroy the planet. | |||||
| New poster, longer time | 1 Relevance | 11 years ago | cactus | General discussion | |
| New poster, longer time reader. The archived posts here are such an ocean of info (especially for a newbie) that I rarely have questions. Also, compared to the knowledgeable collectors here, it's hard to think of content that might be new to the group. I'm working on that. I found the Basic Rules for the first time today, including the one against requesting valuations. I was going to ask where the rule was posted, because I could never find it (I knew it existed, somewhere.) There it was, right under the comment box! For my two cents, new posters could still miss the part about "no valuations," because it's listed after the more boiler plate stuff (courtesy, advertising.) Also, the print is small and light gray. One idea might be a "sticky" post that stayed at the top of the forum, where newcomers might see it. A post title like "Requesting IDs and Valuations" might attract those who intend to ask values. The post body could contain the third Basic Rule (no antiques, no valuations.) Or it could re-list all four rules, but I think the valuations rule needs to be prominent. There could also be a line or two about using the Sold section on eBay, or other research ideas, such as using Google Images, or getting to know your local dealers and shops. I've been looking things up on eBay for years, but not everyone knows about it. Reducing the need for negative replies to valuation requests would be a good thing (although some replies are entertaining!) I suspect at least some "value requesters" have missed the rule, and might not otherwise ask. Some percentage of these might go on to become active members in time, but if they feel badly about the misstep, they might not post again...so the forum loses potential members. (I have no solution for those who know the rules, but just don't care, except for a smack on the head.) A sticky post at the top is redundant, but it might help...? | |||||
| Please. | 1 Relevance | 17 years ago | fastfwd | General discussion | |
| Please. the_beloved: Replace "80s" with some other decade in the first URL you posted, and you'll see that 20s, 30, 40s, 50s, 60s, and 70s fashion is equally "back in full force". An uninspired designer reaching into the past for an unoriginal idea is not a fashion trend. If 80s fashion were truly back, we'd be seeing it on the streets, not just in highly stylized fashion-mag photo shoots or in the collections of young designers who're just trying everything they can think of to get noticed. Seriously, go back and look at what people were actually wearing in the 80s. It was a really distinct look, and it's not experiencing a revival. But to get back to the original question... One reason that 80s design (by which I assume you mean 80s home decor) isn't coming back is that even back then, it obviously had no staying power -- it was cutting-edge for a minute and then almost immediately started to look tacky. A bigger reason, though, is that it hasn't been away long enough. Unlike fashion trends, which completely disappear when they're outdated, and can then be appreciated anew by young people who don't associate them with the earlier time period in which they were first fashionable, home-decor trends remain visible for a long time. In the 70s and 80s, no one wanted mid-century furniture, and lots of beautiful mid-century homes were remodeled with tacky add-ons and awful floor and wall treatments because back then, all that old 50s stuff looked horribly dated, like what you'd see in Grandma's house. Same thing now: Your grandmother isn't still wearing the fashions she wore in the 80s, but her house probably hasn't changed. It'll be at least another ten or twenty years before we can stop associating 80's design with Grandma so we can judge it on its own merits. Such as they are. | |||||
| Ekornes will sell new | 1 Relevance | 12 years ago | jones4leather | General discussion | |
| Ekornes will sell new armrests, but not all styles and colors are available, as you have discovered. Many upholsterers don't like to sew leather; it is a specialty skill and best done with an industrial machine made for sewing leather, so most avoid or do not sew leather at all. They must purchase leather in large pieces or full hides and it will not match, So a small job is not cost effective. Many Ekornes armrest designs are harder to sew than a t-shaped seat cushion with piping and take as long or longer to do. Small items have a lot of tight curves, which are slow and fussy to sew; Some Ekornes designs are actually made of a pillow inside a pillow, fitted together in a certain order, so the upholsterer has to reverse engineer it. which can be a challange. This is why the labor is expensive for what seems like a small thing. A pair of armrests in a simple "hot dog" design can take an hour or 2 to do, while a very complicated pair can take twice that. Check with your local leather repair professional. Some will sew new ones and recolor the leather to match (this is what I do). Some will know an upholsterer who can sew the armrests, then the leather repair pro can do the recoloring. The whole recliner has usually faded with age or become darker from use, so the only way to get leather the right color is to have it custom colored. There is a DIY process for recoloring, but look for a supplier that will customize a kit for you. FYI: The reason most armrests need to be replaced is cracking and color loss due to body oils, which rot leather and accumulate over time, so damage accellerates exponentially with age. Also affects headrests. | |||||
| Beauty AND brains | 1 Relevance | 23 years ago | jan m. | General discussion | |
| Beauty AND brains To CWOO: An example can be a product on the shelf in the kitchen section of a department store (perhaps a Moulinex food processor or the mentioned Juicy Salif, seen for the very first time) - or a huge oil refinery out there. In both cases we see shapes which catch our aesthetic attention, without our having the foggiest idea about what the thing does, and how it does it, apart from that it must do something useful related to the kitchen (or to an industrial purpose in the case of refinery). My point is that what is called functional beauty is probably an intellectual rather than visual quality: it tickles our brains rather than our emotions. Maybe it is related to the experience (and here I am probably leaving the politically correct thinking behind me) of meeting a strikingly handsome man or a spectacularly beautiful woman: from their looks we assume nothing about their brains, in the sense that looks entail brains. In fact, we may feel, on the contrary, that when a person is strikingly good-looking the nature has exhausted itself on the looks side, leaving the brains side somewhat underdeveloped. But if that is the case, does this cancel the fact that the person is beautiful? I do not think so, but it is certainly a disappointment of sorts. On the other hand, meeting a person of mediocre or directly unappealing looks and finding out that he/she is very smart, we may find the person very appealing in his/her own right. But of course a combination of beauty and brains tends to be mind-blowing because is unusual. May be it is so with our products as well: we do fall in love with the looks of products in spite of their (sometimes quite prominent) functional deficiencies, and people love smart, well functioning products in spite of their clumsy or mediocre looks. But of course, our aim as designers should be: beauty AND brains. | |||||
| I felt really glad after... | 1 Relevance | 17 years ago | brnki (SVK) | General discussion | |
| I felt really glad after... I felt really glad after reading Koen's opinion that started this thread. I finished my design studies recently, and the feeling I have, while browsing through very many blogs, is that there are just so many creative people with creative ideas all around, that don't find its way to real people. And design should not be just about one-off pieces and luxury minimalism. Most people spend every day moving from home to work and back. Some of them using public transport, long boring corridors for getting to metro (now.. spending some time in Bangkok, I know what I'm talking about :). These areas look just so human-unfriendly. I'm just wondering how security stuff working there can feel after whole day. Next thing... as Donald Norman in his book "emotional design" wrote, if design makes you happy, it makes you also more open-minded... more creative in solving problems. That's why good looking design that has doesn't work perfect can be more popular than ugly but functional one. Let's put these two things together. People after whole day of work, need to spend some more time walking in boring corridors, they can easily get apathetic, frustrated, coming home in bad mood.. But some creative impulse (such as keyboard on steps) can make their day more interesting.. bringing some positive thoughts.. maybe even inspiring 🙂 maybe also on their way to work. And moreover, people feeling that positive are more open to talk with each other, it can initiate some interaction, street talk, being more open to outside world. And yeah, I know I?m just a naïve young designer. But I?m happy to be one 🙂 | |||||
| The trouble with Paypal. | 1 Relevance | 14 years ago | sharplinesoldtimes | General discussion | |
| Hi. I recently had a bad experience with Paypal (my only one so far) and I would like to hear whether it would be an idea to complain or just accept defeat. I sell vintage Scandinavian design items and I only use Paypal to receive and sometime send payments. So far all through the years I haven't had any trouble what so ever. Well, despite a slight annoyance when it comes to their high fees. Nevertheless it works effortlessly for me. However I recently ship a package to France with two Cylinda Line pieces by Arne Jacobsen from Stelton. The package never arrived at the buyer's place. He has been great all the way, very friendly and professional, but understandably decided to file a "resolution of chargeback" through Paypal. The package was not shipped insured or with tracking as it would be far too expensive on these two somewhat inexpensive Stelton pieces. But I had the shipping receipt with date, destination (France) and a postal fee equal to what the buyer paid. I sent a picture of this receipt to Paypal as part of the resolution details provided by both parties. Still, after four months of waiting, the verdict came today in the words of "...despite our best efforts, the buyer's credit card company decided in favor of the buyer". Eh, how could this outcome be any different when it's the buyer's credit card company that solely decides whether they or I should loose money? I'd honestly expected that a neutral party would decide the outcome. Despite the clear indication of unfairness, I can't see how I can loose the case when I at least have a shipping receipt while the buyer has nothing. So. This really agrevates my sense of justice. What do you think about the whole thing? Have you experienced something similar? | |||||
| Room and Board is pretty good for the money | 1 Relevance | 22 years ago | crankyd | General discussion | |
| Room and Board is pretty good for the money I'm with Olive on Room and Board...decent quality at pretty reasonable prices. I can attest to the quality of the Linear line as well. The several pieces I own have held up very well; though some of the drawer hardware could be improved. They do have a semi-custom line that allows you to upgrade certain features such as this. Overall their cabinetry and tables are quite sturdy for normal long-term use. Years ago, the upholstered pieces had a bit to be desired, but they have improved immensely over the past few years. While I don't think that you'll find 8-way hand-tied springs in any of their pieces; sinuous springs, hardwood frame construction and good quality foam seem to make up most of their lines. Considering the price range; it's a decent value. One thing I credit them for is having furniture that your 106-year old Granny would like and your snooty label-conscious , design-magazine-reading friends would envy. Every time I've ordered from them they have kept their promises and have given me no "surprises." And while a trip to Room and Board is not like walking into a Knoll showroom, at least you can walk out with your mortgage and first-born child still intact. In fact, I went into their Chicago location after work today and they're in the midst of their twice-annual floor sample sale. So I finally snagged the Herman Miller Nelson bench...at 30% off. Yeah, I know it may be a somewhat tired or predictably trite design to some; but to me it's always been, first and foremost, a wonderful Classic. Yay for me! The sale ends pretty soon, I think. Go for it...and good luck! | |||||
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