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Browkin
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15/05/2020 1:50 pm  

Hi folks, 

I work on some Niels Møller chairs, model 83. I decided to clean the chair frame (suppose it’s teak but not sure) with steel wool and miniral spirits, then add some oil. 

After applying the oil coat, the finish got on some spots very bright and kind of yellowish. 

Now I think the wood could be a sort of walnut and a natural wood pattern. Another thought is there were some residue from the previous lacquer and the yellow spots are a result of oil mix with the old lacquer. Don’t like very much the spots and would like to get rid of them if possible.

Any thoughts about this? Did anyone have similar experience in the past?

Many thanks in advance!  

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Browkin
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15/05/2020 1:52 pm  

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Browkin
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15/05/2020 1:53 pm  

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tktoo2
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15/05/2020 3:01 pm  

Certainly teak, though maybe a little sun-bleached. Looks to me like remains of a previous finish and the chair will need to be completely stripped. Did Moller offer a film finish (varnish or lacquer) on these? 


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Browkin
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15/05/2020 4:31 pm  

Sun bleaching is a good hint. Most likely that could be the case. But don’t think those spots bother me so much that I completely strip the chair of again. 🙂 So the next owner must live with them. By the way I have the feeling that by the time the spots do get less. That would probably also speak for the sun bleaching I suppose. 

PS: I suppose Møller offered chair with a sort of lacquer. Probably even a sort of shellac. But I am not so skilled yet, that I could recognize what it is. 


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Kyle Barrett
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26/05/2020 12:48 am  

In my opinion you've stripped some of the finish off with the mineral spirits and wire wool. The darker spots are where the oil has penetrated and the light parts are where there is still finish.


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Browkin
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26/05/2020 11:28 pm  

I did sand one chair slightly with 180 grit sandpaper, but that didn’t help much. Seems that’s not only the lacquer on top, but something what did go deeper in the wood.  


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