I agree with both of you...
I agree with both of you Patrick and Tulipman nothing worse than hocking your goods, that why I don't .
I am always in favor of first try to do it yourself and if it does not work contact someone, It would be nice if Alfi, or Peter could tell how to fix the chairs with out a infomercial, cause both do great work. I would just hate to see someone ruin a really nice chair cause of a mistake they were making,
scotch wild 1838
Poach, I am having trouble getting this epoxy. I haven't found it locally in San Antonio,TX and efforts to buy on line have gotten insane. The adhesive is about $37 for 2 oz
and thats ok but most onlines wont take less than a $50 order. I only have one 670 and believe one package would do fine. However to get it, I am looking at buyin 2 packs plus shipping which ends up costing approx. $75. What was your source and would they be receptive to my needs.
Thanks, guitar.
Scotchweld 1838
Guitar,
I picked up my scotchweld kit more than 10 years ago at an industrial rubber supply company. It's not supposed to be for sale to the public, so I had to convince them that I represented a business with a legitimate need for the stuff. Even then, I think it was about $35 for the kit.
You're right about the online sales. I did some searching of my own, and they don't make it easy for DIY-ers to get 1838. You might try calling one of these distributors directly. The direct order line might not have the same $50 minimum that the online page has. Or you might find a sympathetic order entry person on the other end.
Good luck
Poach - 1838
Thanks for the reply, I'll keep trying for a while and if my efforts fail, I may try the PC 7 which has a pretty comparable shear rating. ....Tulipman, thanks for the input. I am still considering it, I am a little reluctant because, as you say it hardens like steel and if it failed it would be a bear to remove the residue.
Shotck mount alternatives
Peter, I think you're fighting two distinct battles in convincing people to use your shock mount alternative.
First, there are the purists, wanting to maintain their chairs in original condition, as-intended by the designer. These are the sort who run bias ply tires on their vintage cars, because it's "correct" for the car. You're probably not going to change a lot of minds here.
For everyone else (myself included), I think the skepticism stems from concern that our chairs will behave differently than expected, or that the your system will have its own problems over time.
If I understand your description correctly, it sounds like the job of the shock mounts (allowing flex in the chair back) is given to elastomeric bushings that are inserted into a wooden puck. This seems like a reasonable way to go, as long as the bushings deflect at the same rate as the original shock mounts. Have you made any tests to see how the two compare? I'd also be a bit concerned that since the forces are concentrated in a much smaller area, that the bushings would show "creep" after a few years, and the chair back would sag. Are the bushings something that can be easily replaced if or when necessary?
Awesome - Its time to stir the pot.
Eames Lovers & Herman Miller Haters
When the front tires on your car wear out do you just change one.No.
When your computer crashes do you take it apart.No.
So why would you risk ruining your loved Eames Lounge chair by installing inferior or ill-conceived parts.
Now don't get me wrong there is a certain personal reward when you take the time, effort & money to fix something yourself.But shouldn't you start with the correct quality parts to achieve this goal.
Proprietary Wooden blocks with rubber inserts, Ohh Olek give us all a brake.
It doesn't matter how long a thread you leave what you write is plain and simply crazy.
Do you really think that the guys that read your words are going to fall for it and send you their Eames lounge chair panels for the installation of your proprietary blocks of wood with rubber inserts.
Come on Eames lovers stand up and be counted.
Lucifer Sum, Lunchbox are you with me.
This is not self promotion (just a little bit) its letting people know that there is the wrong way and the Humemodern way.(Will this last bit be edited?)
We will gladly pass on information on the removal and installation of shock mounts but sorry guys the adhesive is a secret.
All it needs is one of you to tell Peter and he will start fixing Eames Lounge chairs the right way and i won't have anyone to bag on.
In 2010 we will be launching our new site with all the information you will need to repair and restore your vintage furniture.
We might even start up a forum. (please no advertising design addict)
Happy Holidays guys and peace in the middle east.
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