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whitespike
(@whitespike)
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15/09/2010 9:44 pm  

I wish I could help, but I...
I wish I could help, but I love your chairs!!! I am a big fan of black wire and upholstery...


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NULL NULL
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15/09/2010 11:20 pm  

sorry Ollie - I don't...
sorry Ollie - I don't recognize the design. As for all the rude comments. There are too many trolls on this site, and think it would be a lot more active if they would lay off. I hardly feel like interacting on this site anymore because of it.
Almost all collectors are "dealers" in one way or another. You collect things, ultimately you upgrade to something better, so the item changes hands, is re-sold. I always offer my suggestions and gladly help to ID items, for anyone, "dealer" or not.
As for myself, YES. I am a dealer. I'm a 26 year old artist who buys and sells to support my collection habit.
Next time you complain about the price on a unique piece of furniture, think about where else you could possibly find it. Often times dealers list things at a high retail because we are forced to give other dealers and interior designers a large cut. If you email saying you are interested, they will probably give you a discount!
I deserve the profit I make on things I buy. Because when I go to an estate sale, I have to sleep in my car overnight, sometimes for days to be one of the first few people into the sale. Do you know what its like to pee into a bucket in the back of your van because if you leave, you'll lose your spot, you won't get to buy anything good. Would you be willing to do that, to buy that special item at the rates dealers buy them at?
So my point is, dealers are a part of the collecting community. Give them a break.


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NULL NULL
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15/09/2010 11:29 pm  

The OP here is not a good example....
But there certainly are way too many "hit-and-run" type of posts with people who are interested in identifying an item solely for selling purposes.
Dealer or not, read the sticky and respect the rules of the forum.
It's as simple as that.


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NULL NULL
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15/09/2010 11:36 pm  

woodywood - I certainly agree...
woodywood - I certainly agree with that. Lots of posts from people that are not interested in being apart of an online collectors community. And a lot of people don't use common sense when trying to ID things. An "ID this" post should be made after some personal research, as a last attempt to figure something out.
BUT there is no sense in provoking people.. scaring off potential forum users... ignoring the chronic "ID this" posters is probably the best solution.


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Riki
 Riki
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16/09/2010 12:21 am  

Oh, please
This website probably has one of the highest percentages of LURKERS of all websites in the history of the internet. Nobody wants to learn and research for themselves anymore, even dealers. It's pathetic.
The long-timers on this site, both collectors and dealers alike, have spent countless hours doing their homework, so it is no wonder that they get p***ed off when other dealers come on here and want all the work done for them. I mean, come on. Do your own research, people. Buy the books! Educate yourselves!
Occasionally, a truly interesting piece is posted on here and that is when we all can learn. But, puhleez, a brand new Kaj Bojesen hippo is now a blog before it gets sold on ebay? And to the OP, a Conran's knockoff of a classic Frederic Weinberg chair? DO YOUR HOMEWORK!!


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Lit Up
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16/09/2010 2:37 pm  

Oh please back...
Oh please back atcha.
Riki I'm not a dealer but I find your attitude rather peculiar. You say that people don't want to learn and research for themselves anymore. Well sorry, but using the internet and asking on forums is called research. Whether information is provided is then down to whether people on those forums are nice or not.
If I'm researching a solution to a computer problem I'm having, I often post on forums where users of those computers and programs will frequent, such as macforums or macrumors. I never get a response back like "oh you want all the work done for you, go read a manual, do your homework." Instead I get helpful answers.
If you're a long-time dealer who has spent countless hours researching offline, and you obviously have more knowledge than most other people on these boards, surely this will reflect in your takings or collection? If you don't feel like helping somebody else why spend your valuable time moaning at them for asking? That's really pathetic. You could just move on and contribute to the threads you find interesting.
A solution to this, as has already been suggested, is to upgrade the forum and have a separate board for IDs. There could even be a VIP (very intelligent person) board for you and those who lived in a pre-online age with lots of big picture books to talk about whatever super cosmic obscure furniture that very intelligent people talk about.


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pugwashed
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16/09/2010 4:00 pm  

Oh well said
Oh I do love this thread,
It's almost like all the unheard gripes people have with attitudes of the 40 year old virgin,trainspotting,robot wars loving,still live with their mother,dress as a klingon at weekends and play air guitar types,are just coming up to the surface and being heard at last.
Bravo Litup


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Ben joyner-72
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16/09/2010 4:04 pm  

Can we be nice?
Ollie is a respected and knowledgeable UK dealer who I'm very sure spends a lot of time & money researching furniture whether its online or in books. Sometimes though you just can't ID a piece and I think that it is perfectly reasonable to ask, as many others do on this site. He asked politely, it's his first post, he didn't ask for a value - give him a break!


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NULL NULL
(@o-learmonthbtinternet-com)
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16/09/2010 4:43 pm  

glad you like it!
I seem to have unwittingly touched on a sensitive nerve here!
To assume i have not exhausted all my hundreds of books and spent hours trawling through the t'internet is hilarious. I notice all the "get some books!" type responses received here have not shed any light on my original question - i assume these people don't have enough books or maybe they'd be able to answer...? or maybe they prefer to keep us all in the dark! I'd have no problem identifying any post - dealer or not.
Have they not also considered that in years and years of collecting i have not needed/wanted to post an ID request before? Not knowing some information is not exactly something to brag about is it. I simply thought this would be the best way to finally get some info on a nice piece of design.
would it now be impertinant to ask for everyone's complete databases of customers too...?
Ok, ok, let's stick to the original question!


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Molassekoenig
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17/09/2010 3:39 pm  

There is a similar chair...
There is a similar chair from alf Svensson:
http://www.deconet.com/decopedia/object/119543/Easy_chair_by_Alf_Svensson


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shipwright (UK)
(@shipwright-uk)
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17/09/2010 11:09 pm  

Wrong
i was wrong, it...
Wrong
i was wrong, it was not the Conran I had seen recently, though it is similar to Jack Stafford's work......


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just wondering
(@carterofmarsaol-com)
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18/09/2010 1:54 am  

Dealer or not, helping to...
Dealer or not, helping to identify pieces is beneficial to the hobby. A better chance that more of these will survive if they're identified.
Who cares if they are dealers or not.


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NULL NULL
(@teapotd0meyahoo-com)
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18/09/2010 2:03 am  

Dealer vs. hobby
And there you have it.
It is a dealer's JOB to know what he is selling.


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Jeroen
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20/09/2010 6:39 am  

dealer
we are all dealers, un less you own a castle or a storage room as large as half a football field. I collect, adore, go on searching, find another collectible, have to many, sell, not to cheap, and buy that one I always wanted. I will help a postman when he's lost...it's his job, but I'll help him..


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NULL NULL
(@teapotd0meyahoo-com)
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20/09/2010 7:08 am  

Okay
We'll be ready the next time a postman posts on the forum.


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