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brent/sarah
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05/07/2011 10:12 pm  

Hello all,
I was told you could help me. Two years ago we bought a used "eames lounge chair" from 1st Dibs online for $2,600. It was shipped from Los Angeles to Boston. We're moving now and trying to resell it for $1800 on ... (edited by DA, no advertising for sales please). Someone responded that it was unequivocally a fake worth not more than $400! Can this be? Even it it is a "fake", it's in very good condition (and comfortable). Can someone verify it's a fake, and suggest a fair asking price?? Also, and suggestions as far as recourse to recoup our money from 1st Dibs who, I think, should know the difference between an authentic vs a fake eames given they specialize in modern/antique furniture sales!!! So irresponsible.

many thanks


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mvalen
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05/07/2011 10:17 pm  

not Herman Miller
Sorry, this is not a Herman Miller Chair.


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tktoo
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05/07/2011 10:19 pm  

You've been had.
It's so obviously not Herman Miller that you may even have deserved it. Did you not do any research at all before handing your cash to a crook?


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brent/sarah
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05/07/2011 11:19 pm  

any suggestions re asking pri...
any suggestions re asking price? Or what kind of reproduction it might be?


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LRF
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06/07/2011 2:29 am  

bad fake
bad fake


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SDR
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06/07/2011 2:59 am  

Virtually all
of the Eames loungers on the page(s) linked below are the real thing. Look closely: the chair has metal bars connecting the headrest to the chair back; the chair does not have bolts visible below the armrest.
Your chair has the headrest mounted with wood bars, at a position higher than correct. In one photo your headrest seems to be mounted crooked.
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=eames%20lounge%20cha...


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jdip
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06/07/2011 3:39 am  

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fastfwd
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06/07/2011 5:41 am  

Brent/Sarah
The base of your chair (and of the ottoman) is a lot nicer than most knockoffs. It's hard to tell from your photos, but you might have a chair built by the Charlton company.
Charlton made a couple of variations on the Eames lounge, and they used a base that looked just like yours. I can't say for sure that your chair is a Charlton, however, since I haven't seen one with exactly your chair's details. For example... The original Eames chair had metal headrest mounts. Charlton made chairs with metal mounts (my ex-wife had one; it's still the best Eames replica I've sat in) and also with wooden mounts, but the wooden mounts I've seen on Charlton chairs look different from yours. The photos below show a Charlton chair with wooden mounts; see what I mean?
I'm no expert, though, and Charlton did make a number of variations, so yours may indeed be a Charlton anyway. Have you looked closely at the frame and underside of your chair, and under its upholstery, to see whether you can find a manufacturer's name?
If your chair is a Charlton in good shape, I'd expect it to sell with the ottoman for around $400-$600.


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brent/sarah
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06/07/2011 6:41 am  

much appreciated
our chair does seem to be made by the Charlton company. Resembles the photos you posted. Didn't find any marking or logo, though. Again, thank you. I've written an email to the seller demanding reimbursement! We'll see how that goes.


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Krenit
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06/07/2011 8:27 am  

Who sold that as a real...
Who sold that as a real Eames chair? Are you sure it did not say "Eames style"?


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HPau
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06/07/2011 8:37 am  

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Consider yourself a major player in a piece of performance art on the nature of capitalism and naivete, be proud I say!


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tktoo
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07/07/2011 3:19 am  

Maybe someone should start a
"don't let this happen to you" thread?


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Tulipman
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07/07/2011 7:32 pm  

Like the guy who bought a fake weathervane on Roadshow
I think he paid alot,like 7 or $8K, only to be told it was a fake,valued at $600.----Ouch!!! Due diligence,my friends,caveat emptor.I don't care whose selling it,you have to research the product.


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brbeard
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07/07/2011 9:19 pm  

Yeah, I saw that one! I just...
Yeah, I saw that one! I just looked it up again (see link). The guy paid $17,500 (!), and the appraisal ended up being for $500. They broke it to him as gently as possible, but...ouch.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/roadshow/archive/201006A51.html


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modlady
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08/07/2011 4:21 am  

Sorry 🙁
This is definitely not an original Eames chair...the leather doesn't look to be the best. However, this is still an awesome design so you should keep it!


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