BTVM
Was it not FLW who advocated that the architecture of the residence should blend into the landscape.
You have that right on the money!! and that is the exact way this house was designed were the exterior comes right in the home . The late great architect that designed this home with his father in law Ted Kirchner were close associates of Frank Lloyd Wright and Marcel Breuer so they took many great ideas from them .
I have no idea what color to paint all the wood. i just know the first quote came in for $12,000 for all the wood and that does include Ben Moore Pratt and Lambert paint but i have no idea what color to choose open for suggestion i want to extract one of the colors from the stone. any help much appreciated love to hear ideas,
BTVM
I would love to see some pics of your home, it sounds great and a great idea about the paint,
This house is one big maintenance S.O.B and i debated for a long time a bout changing one thing cause of the significance of the mid-century design. but what the hell a little update never hurt a thing,
For the life of me I do not know why the architect put brick on this house instead of stone like the great architects of that period did, I did talk to a old retired architect that i found at the City Historical society that had a big architectural firm in the 60's and is head of the architectual socitey in our town that knew my home well. He told me as soon as the great home designers of the late 50's early 60's like Frank Lloyd Wright,Marcel Breuer, Elliot Noyes, John Johansen, Landis Gores, O'neal Ford published their box homes or H style homes as he called them in the architectural magazines every one jumped on them, and tried to duplicate their version some worked and some did not, He said that was their Internet so that is where the ideas came from, I guess the guy he designed my home with his father
in law who was real famous thought brick might look better than stone,
I 45 years later disagree
I want mine to look just like Wrights, Breuer, Noyes and Gores home,
Brick vs. Stone
Perhaps the brick was a budgetary concern when the house was built. Brick is always the same and may not require the same level of skill in application as stone. I should think that brick can be put on quicker as one doesn't even need to look at the pile of materials when laying brick, each brick you put in your hand is exactly the same shape as its predecessor. Stone is a bit more random and has to be fitted. I've built a stone wall or two in my day and it always involved rooting around in the pile of stone to find that piece that just fits perfectly, brick of course would not present such an issue and would therefore require less time, thus less cost. Just a theory, but now you are making your home to what you love, what looks great, and just seems right. I will root around for a few photos and try and put them up, although I'm not entirely certain how to do that. Keep the stone photos coming.
BTVM
your right it had to be a budget thing back then.
It has been 4 weeks Monday and these stone masons have not gotten to far. Each piece has to be cut and looking for the perfect needle in the haystack, cause if you do not find the right stone it looks like some thing else,(like a rich country club would use for their sign saying Meadow Brooke, )
They tell me they can not get the 2 inch tennessee
crab orchard anymore, like you saw on so many houses in the South west cause the quarry closed down years ago, so any thin pieces they have to saw cut, or we have to find used, The only problem with getting used is one side has turned brown and dirty after 50 years on old houses, Yes it was no doubt a budget thing back then,
just a quick up date the...
just a quick up date they have been on my house laying just the brick for 4.5 weeks and are only half way through,
I have no new pictures but will have some soon, as soon as i can get them to clean the mess up .
The cool thing is I saw in the new modernism magazine they have a home that Frank Lloyd Wright did in in Western Pennsylvania called one of his Usonian homes
You can now stay in the house as it is called the Duncan House and open for public lodging, tours, The cool thing is the stone is the same as mine with the excetion of real cool pattrn about 12 inchs and extended 2 in line , i wish i would have seen this earlier cause it looks way cool, no need to cry over spilled milk but it is cool..... maybe i will use it on another side of the house in the front by the fireplace, i pulled Fallingwood up on line and that is the same way they did the stone on that home also, so maybe i was just not paying attention to the detail and was so excited when the contractor found the crab orchard just like FLW used. I did find out that the original quarries do not exist for this stone anymore.
In the 1950's and
60's they were producing it in 2 x 12 2x14 2x16 now all you can get it in is 4 inch and you have to hand saw it ( something these masons do not want to do on a regular bases)but will do it to keep the design looking good,
I love this stone and i think it makes a killer look i just can't believe how long it takes to lay as it is like a puzzel
I expect the contractor to tell me to stick it any day as he has to have lost money on this job by now,
Yes, you
don't have Wright's typical random projecting stones, but it still looks very good. Now I think you should replace all the existing brick with stone !
You were asking about a paint color; one thought is to spray your stone wall with water and match one of the colors that you see. The result is what I would call natural color harmony. . .
Keep up the good work. SDR
sdr thanks
I was going to do a little brick work . now I am going to do the whole house 4 times more than i thought but what the hell only money and I am having fun!!!!!
I will spray it and come up with a great color it is harder than i thought I wanted to do the step syle just like fallingwood but was sleeping at the switch at least I got the stone part correct and that stuff is hard to find,
When i presented the picture to my stone mason he said easy to do just a little late but i will be able to do the exterior fireplace and the two front panels of the house and it should be cool looking,
work in progress
Still working on the outside after 6 weeks , at the half way point, can see around the corner,not really
hope this brick job will be finished for the christmas party then they have to do the front walk and porch that is what the other picture is all a bout the first one is one of 6 walls that they are doing. I do love that stone, at this rate Valentines day is looking like a option , to be continued
tired very tired of seein...
tired very tired of seeing these characters everyday, since i office at my home and am there in the mornings before i venture out for the day , i like to hang out and see what the guys are doing and I tell you these guys are nice but boy. do they like to talk and talk take a break, lunch ,and mess the place up unreal,
I have been involved in construction of shopping centers for 20 years but these guys take the cake, for slowness, I am glad that they are good people, and i have a turn key job on this one . or i would have been broke on the hourly wage.
thanks
thanks
i am waiting right now for a large truck load of Crab orchard stone coming from Tennessee,
There is none left around here and they located some on the Arkansas Tennessee boarder. It was a good thing
that they did my home in stages, as we will be doing the exterior fireplace and front walls and retaining walls ,
One other thing i bought the new Frank Lloyd Wright
book mid century modern and he was crazy about the stone started using in at Falling water and then as far a way as Carmel CA ,
I have learned from some DA folks that he use to like to jet the stone out and use bands around 16 inches apart
I was a little to late to convey this to my brick layer but we will do it on the parts of the project
Love to see your home and thanks for your post,
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