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20/09/2007 4:12 am  

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20/09/2007 4:15 am  

i am rerocking my house in a...
i am rerocking my house in a very unusaual stone that was very popular in the 1950's it is called crap apple orchard and very hard to find
I thought it would look good with the Frank Lloyd Wright Marcel Breuer style home. Wright used this stone in his later homes, in Arizona .
What do you think


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20/09/2007 5:13 am  

that is called crab apple orc...
that is called crab apple orchard stone from Tennessee not crap sorry for the slip


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20/09/2007 5:59 am  

CRAB ORCHARD STONE?
no apple in it...


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20/09/2007 7:24 am  

glad you knew that
glad you knew that


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20/09/2007 10:41 am  

Pictures
Take pictures and post them as the construction goes, I'd like to see the progress.


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21/09/2007 1:20 am  

very handsome stuff there, LR...
very handsome stuff there, LRF. Howabout some more shots?
Good move and worth what I know must be a hefty outlay. I can already tell it's going to look miles better.


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21/09/2007 1:24 am  

Rock on Dude! It looks...
Rock on Dude! It looks awesome already! Keep us posted.


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21/09/2007 3:42 am  

finch ,James and Televison man
Thanks guys it started out as a little cut stone compliment to the house cause i thought that is what it needed, since it had such a Frank Lloyd Wright Marcel Breuer look to the design, and now it has turned into a major stone fest!!! I was just gonna do one little wall, and now has gone to a complete stone redo, and three times what i was going to spend plus the complete paint job on the wood to match the stone, I will keep you all posted with pics when the rock is finished, Now i have a project to keep me busy , like i really needed this one OY VEY


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21/09/2007 5:46 am  

What did your workers use...
What did your workers use for a footing? Did they go down several feet or just attach a ground level ledger to the outside wall?
Are they using a retainer to hold the masonary work to the side walls? Or does it simply sit right next to the siding?


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21/09/2007 7:48 am  

21-Sep-07
What did...
21-Sep-07
What did your workers use...
What did your workers use for a footing?
They used concrete with steel
Did they go down several feet or just attach a ground level ledger to the outside wall?
They did go down several feet all
around
Are they using a retainer to hold the masonary work to the side walls? Or does it simply sit right next to the siding?
It is about six inches from the original siding walls.
great questions


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21/09/2007 11:02 am  

I was considering such a job...
I was considering such a job and wondered what it would take to do the prep work.
Interesting that you didn't have the rock installed directly against the old wall. Are you removing the old wall then, or maybe leaving an air gap with the original interior wall?
thanks


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21/09/2007 8:40 pm  

the brick layers go six in...
the brick layers go six inches out, if it is a interior wall and these are not, they will put up insulation,
the only time you would adhere the stone
direct to the wood or old brick is if you use what the brick layers call lick and stick , that is the faux stuff that looks like stone, They start laying that from the top and go to the bottom cause it is not load or weight baring, and goes up like tile,
That is so much less
expensive but if you do use it you have to find good material, that is cultured stone,
I looked at several and the only one that looked remotely close was made by Owens Corning, and they wanted 6.00 per foot ,
These brick layers are chargeing me 14.00 a foot to lay this, and the stone cost around 6.50 a foot , You save about half with the faux stuff but I heard in the long run it can have problems with water and freezing ice, something we have in this part of the country
. I do love the real stone, crab orchard just has a neat look and is very time consuming to lay cause it is like a puzzel and that is what gives the cool look, that Frank Lloyd Wright was after,
any questions please feel free to ask.


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23/09/2007 3:42 am  

LRF are you also painting the rest of the house?
What color if at all were you thinking of painting the main body of the house. We have a monster of a late 60's ranch, Esentially a large box 80 feet across the front and back and 80 feet down the two sides and to make the mass disappear somewhat into the landscape we painted the exterior in Ben Moore Sussex green so when people come through the front door they are somewhat blown away by the interior mass, having no idea of the overall size of the house based on the perception from the street anyway. We call it our stealthy late, late mid century modern . All open floor plan.
Was it not FLW who advocated that the architecture of the residence should blend into the landscape. Somewhat off topic but I just saw a story somewhere on a couple in Ireland who built a house with slightly down angled mirrors as an exterior cladding material and from a distance, the house completely disappears into the landscape as all that is reflected back is the landscape. That of course is this premise in the extreme. Anyway, keep us posted with progress pictures, the rock looks so perfect period correct.


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