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Lillilovesdesign
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20/04/2021 2:13 pm  

Does anyone know who the maker is of this chair? 

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mark737
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23/04/2021 2:45 am  

Werner Biermann, Artesano collection,   Biermann & Cia. Ltda, Bogota, Colombia c 1960's according to a couple of sellers.  Here's a mark on one of them:

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mark737
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23/04/2021 3:05 am  

Label from another chair of same model

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lexi
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23/04/2021 7:41 am  

@mark737. Impressive ID.

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mark737
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23/04/2021 3:05 pm  

@lexi  Thanks, but Pinterest deserves the credit for this one.  Their image search tool yielded a match within first 6 results.  Biermann was German and moved to Colombia in the 30's according to a seller on Facebook.  Page from one of his catalogs: 

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lexi
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23/04/2021 3:20 pm  

@mark737. But,  the "key words " you used in the search must have been very on point to have got a result so quickly !

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mark737
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23/04/2021 3:56 pm  

@lexi  There are no key words with Pinterest image searches.  It's the best pure image search tool I know of.  Far better than Google's image search tool, which I don't think has ever worked for me.  If you have the tool as a Chrome extension, you can click on the search tool in upper right of a photo and it will take you to this screen.  I just did it again and as you can see, the third image is a match for this chair.       

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Kyle Barrett
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23/04/2021 11:32 pm  

Good tip! Thanks Mark!

I had been thinking about a final project for my university course being about machine learning to match images of design. If I could ever dream of it being this accurate (or more to the point this accurate being simple enough for me to implement) I'd do it. But I think there's a lot of learn with machine learning. Still quite impressive when it works.


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mark737
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24/04/2021 1:06 am  

@kyle-barrett  If Google and Facebook with their thousands of engineers haven't come up with a better image search tool by now, you have to assume it's pretty damn hard.   But go ahead and give it a shot, I'm sure you'll learn a lot in the process.  


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Kyle Barrett
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24/04/2021 12:44 pm  

This is precisely my logic.

My module tutor has advised that she's had other students try it and she's said everyone single one at some point in the process said it was a lot more difficult than they could have expected. So I've already kind of crossed it out. But it's a nice thought for the future when other far more clever humans have streamlines the process so people like me can have a go.

We did a little machine learning and it was already complex, but I suspect with less curated datasets, like scraping images on the web it can get far, far more complex.


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andrewflintoff
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11/05/2021 8:15 am  

Look at the antique furniture being referred to.
Try not to contact the furniture until you know its worth.
Know the sorts of antique furniture esteems.
Discover comparative antique furniture esteems on paper
Quest the web for more data.
If all else fails, have the furniture assessed.


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cdsilva
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11/05/2021 3:36 pm  

I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.

Stop Dave. Stop Dave. I am afraid. I am afraid Dave


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lexi
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11/05/2021 4:55 pm  

@cdsilva. Seems like you are having a recurring nightmare. 

I completely empathise with you.

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Alex Julia
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08/06/2021 12:17 pm  

A significant telling component of antique seats begins from the floor and goes up; leg shapes help characterize the style and period to which the seat has a place. Chippendale and Queen Anne seats commonly have a S-bended cabriole leg with a knee and in-bended lower leg.


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cdsilva
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08/06/2021 8:13 pm  

I'm hoping that the bots start talking to each other.


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