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15/02/2011 3:08 am  

One could...
Do something something.


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15/02/2011 4:19 am  

sssshhhhhh...
haha...yeah something something later


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15/02/2011 7:55 am  

What?! What is this cryptic s...
What?! What is this cryptic something? Do tell! Friends don't keep secrets.


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15/02/2011 8:01 am  

I'm so glad that my friend turned me on to this discussion. I have been watching this scheister malihini for years.
As for the reproduction label. I've been collecting early Eames for over 15 years. That label looks good in the photo. I'm not saying that it's original, and definitely not original to the chair but it's one of those things that even I would have to see in person. I also agree that it is almost too crisp and clean, especially if it has been transferred from another chair. As to the perforation... they have the printed lines separating the three logos but I have never seen an actual perforation on any of these paper labels that I've seen.


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15/02/2011 8:33 am  

SHHHHhhhhhhh!
Shhhhhhh! Bring the clouds back sunshine, use the edit function. Maybe I'm being too uptight thinking either party (or relations) actually visit this site? Be nice that attempts to make contact aren't muddled.


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15/02/2011 9:39 am  

Jeff,
Your reasoning make...
Jeff,
Your reasoning make sense. The screws are not original. Combined with the sudden appearance of the label is really fishy. Read Pegboard's admirable attempts to dispel this, which came to no avail, in fact given the runaround.
Shouldn't there be a washer underneath the slotted backrest screws?


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15/02/2011 4:19 pm  

IIRC
DCW/LCW don't have washers on the back rest screws. Only DCM/LCM do.


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15/02/2011 5:14 pm  

What washers are you talking...
What washers are you talking about???? The only time there was any kind of "washer" on these chairs was the "experimental" shock mounts with the exposed washers. That washer was the same diameter and fused to the rubber shock mount. That, and the loose washers on the Zenith chair mounts.


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15/02/2011 5:33 pm  

Washers on the screws.
Not washer(s) on the shock mount(s).


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15/02/2011 5:38 pm  

There were never washers on...
There were never washers on the screws. What I was explaining is the only time there was ever a washer associated with these DCW/DCM's or LCW/LCM's unless you are referring to the 1960's versions.


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15/02/2011 6:08 pm  

There are washers on the screws...
Of DCM/LCM (tooth-lock type).


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15/02/2011 6:21 pm  

I've been an anal collector...
I've been an anal collector for 15 years. With the exception of DCM/LCM's from the 1960's and later. I've never seen them with lock washers that were original hardware and I've seen hundreds.


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15/02/2011 10:51 pm  

Sorry, you guys are right I'm...
Sorry, you guys are right I'm mistaken! I erroneously recollected the photo below with sticker label, thinking it was the backrest and forgetting about the sticker. Examining the photo you'll see why. Forgive me.
The label photo was taken from an eBay auction year or so back. An example of the perforated postage stamp label. Photo was saved as an LCM, but it looks like an LCW set-up. As you can see, two slotted screws with a tooth-lock type washer. Strange.
For the heck of it, included is a photo of my seat shock mount washer.


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15/02/2011 11:20 pm  

argumentive - no , stubborn - yes
I really don't mean to be arguementive but I stand by my experience:
1) I see no washer in this photo nor have I ever on these chairs pre 1960ish. I have physically handled these chairs before and never has one had an original washer on it. I don't know what you're looking at in the photo but there is no washer there. Are you only basing your theory on this photo?
2) In addition... Yes, I have heard this label nicknamed the postage stamp. However, the perforation you're speaking of is printed on the label but the paper itself is not perforated. I have physically seen these labels up very close. Also, if it were perforated then wouldn't it make sense that the end edges would be rougher?


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15/02/2011 11:31 pm  

shock mount
The photo of the damaged shock mount shows the plate that is molded into the mount. This plate has a threaded nut attached to it's center allowing the bolt to screw into the shock mount securely.


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