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barrympls
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25/08/2008 6:25 pm  

I just got a message from eBay that starting in October, items won on eBay will no longer be able to be paid-for using a check or money order through the mails.

Now, as a PayPal account person, it's no problem for me, but there's quite a few people who buy and sell on eBay who don't like PayPal, and it seems like they'll have to find another way to deal with the payments.

eBay claims that this keeps the fraud down, but those p*ssed off with PayPal, for one reason or another, will be chewing the carpet, I suspect.

While I'm not crazy about PayPal, I have used them for years and all-in-all, I think they're worth the costs. (PayPal HAS been extremely helpful when I had to file a claim about stuff I've paid for that either arrived broken or never arrived at all...which is rare, but it HAS happened.)


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NULL NULL
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25/08/2008 7:27 pm  

I think
Paypal recently increased their fee to 4%.


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Robert Leach
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26/08/2008 2:29 am  

..and
of course Ebay own paypal..so they get yet another bite of the cherry ..


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RetroSixty
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26/08/2008 3:12 am  

Con. What happened to a free...
Con. What happened to a free market? Ebay owns PayPal as mentioned, it's all a big con. I hate PayPal!


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NULL NULL
(@spinarioantiquesgmail-com)
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26/08/2008 3:39 am  

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A lot of people are only comfortable paying with checks, so they are alienating a lot of people.... Also, they are trying to move away from "auction" style listings. Offering sellers great deals on these new "fixed price" listings.
Also, sellers cannot leave neutral or negative feedback! People don't have to pay, etc. I know a lot of people who are not selling on eBay now because of rules like that.... As a collector I've noticed the number of quality items being offered go down somewhat.....


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Robert Leach
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26/08/2008 3:50 am  

Absolutely
For some reason they seem to want to be Amazon
They are missing their biggest potential marketing tool..recycling !
It beggars belief that a company borne of a good ethic would want to turn its back on it and become a marketplace like any other, if it were mine I'd be encouraging the small seller- pushing the recycling element..
If there was any real competition for the collectable market I'd be there..
shouldn't be long now


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NULL NULL
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26/08/2008 4:42 am  

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For the piece of mind, I use PP. Sure I'm not crazy about them, as I've have had some experiences where buyers try to work the system. But I rather use them than having to deal with Personal checks. I'm so over that one, way to many shady people out there. If I'm selling something it better have a confirmation number, insurance is optional. Blah, blah, blah and all the mumbo jumbo I have learned to add when listing an item. As for the new rating system, so far no problems...but you never know.


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kdc (USA)
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26/08/2008 7:06 am  

it figures
this is more over-regulation that has become way too typical in our culture.
some people [or businesses, or governments] can't seem to shake free of the notion that we need regulated intervention in order to ensure justice. so rather than educate the so-called disadvantaged, they dumb down the system and impose unnecessary hardships on those who once enjoyed a market of valuable options.
"you will do it this way and like it" becomes the heavy-handed dictum, and those in charge seem to have difficulty understanding why the thinking class are less than pleased.


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LRF
 LRF
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26/08/2008 7:48 am  

if you want to play ...
if you want to play you have pay paypal that is...


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Big Television Man
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26/08/2008 10:03 am  

And Meg Whitman
cashed out as CEO with somewhere between 300 and 500 million dollars. Tell me how somebody running an internet company with I believe shareholders is worth a half a billion dollars on top of salary upon leaving the company after perhaps 8 years. Give me a break!


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finch
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26/08/2008 1:27 pm  

Yes, Big Television --...
Yes, Big Television -- Weclome to the new Gilded age in America, where the dollar is a relative unit of value and in place of shock economics we have distraction economics, wherein the status quo is turned on it's ear while everyone is out shopping or playing video games.
Man, it just gets worse and worse. As a power seller who scrapes part of his daily bread on ebay, I can tell you that the new rules are impacting my sales and the quality of bidders that I have in a big way; some bidders have actually written me to say they are "flaking out on me" when backing out of a bid, knowing that my recourse is marginal, at best. My feet are also held to the fire in ways that are unfair; I go through hoops to ship things within the same hour, and usually always take a hit on shipping -- yet I am still underrated in both departments. Just because, I suppose.
Thanks to the new Ebay/Paypal monopoly, I think the golden days of ebay are a just about a closed book. I always suspected that ebay would change for the worse one day, but I figured it would be because of government intervention, or simply because the finite amount of really great items would be gradually dispersed and wedged fast into collectors stockpiles for the next twenty or thirty years. I never figured ebay would engineer its own ugly fall.


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Robert Leach
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26/08/2008 1:43 pm  

I'm
experiencing exactly the same things here in the UK, people paying 10 days or more after the end of auction, without any explanation or correspondence, items I send arriving the next day and still getting poor DSRs for delivery time..
I don't where you're up to in the US, but we are about to get reduced listing fees..
and a huge hike in FVFs..
Just looking through my searchs today, I am seeing more and more Buy It Now auctions
I think the day of ebay bargains is also coming to a close.
It'll just become a game of 'fastest Finger First' on the poorly listed and badly described items..


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NULL NULL
(@spinarioantiquesgmail-com)
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26/08/2008 9:53 pm  

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yeah. eBay is going down hill. As for people who sell on eBay, its starting to.. not be worth the effort. Its going to do the average retail buyer harm. I'm skipping eBay and selling more and more directly to dealers in LA and NY, as are some other people I know. Joe Schmo is going to have to pay 1st dibs prices for their sought after piece instead of wholesale prices on eBay.
Absolutely - people don't have to pay, people who know nothing about the item, are bidding. Changing their minds. Trying to haggle the price after the auctions end, because they can. So far, I haven't experienced too much problems.... but as a buyer the quality of items I collect on eBay has gone down!


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NULL NULL
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27/08/2008 9:05 pm  

It was always on the cards...
It was always on the cards that Ebay would go sour - its the inevitability that if anything is good someone will come along and f*** it up.


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azurechicken (USA)
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27/08/2008 9:58 pm  

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I have sold/bought on ebay ,but the sheer greed of ebay is unreal...I will cut back for sure its still the best market for (better) design items,not the supra high end,and how the hell do the 10 dollar and less per item people do it? A sellers audience is VAST on ebay...


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