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anabelle
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01/03/2011 7:29 pm  

Please be constructive.
BTW the image above is an original x-base, not a fabrication, I've seen it in person, has woodywood? Or is he/she just spewing more slander?
I would question how woodywood thinks he/she knows so much about Modern Conscience. What's all the anger for? And Lunchbox too?
Clever, but not modern without consent. One of the original owners worked directly with Herman Miller, the Eames family, and the Nelson family on a project Herman Miller did in 2006 to create re-design concepts for their Classics series. So they are well aware of the sensitivity of the entire redesign, versus reproduction, versus restoration, versus untouched vintage debate.
It just seems like a lot of people here are slamming others for things they have no clue on. They seem to like to present a very small piece of the picture to cast judgment and inflate their own egos.
Just search for other comments left by woodywood and Lunchbox. They're constantly jumping to negative conclusions with very very little information (not just with regard to Modern Conscience, but many, many other people and companies).
I wish this site could be more productive, instead of just being a place where misinformation is presented as fact.


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Olive
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01/03/2011 7:32 pm  

I can't even figure out what she's blathering about!
What did woodywood or lunchbox say that was moronic? I've never known them to ever say anything like that. I might not always agree with them, but both seem to be quite intelligent!


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anabelle
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01/03/2011 7:46 pm  

moronic?
Where does it say they say things that are moronic? Never accused them of being unintelligent. From their inputs I can tell that they are both very quick and brilliant, in fact. I'm not trying to name call here, just trying to point out that it seems wrong to post on something you don't have (or are not presenting) all of the facts on.


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Lunchbox
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01/03/2011 8:06 pm  

Original X base
Reproduction skis
What's the point?
I don't get what we're on about here, save the fact that the company/username is fantastically ironic and their prices are fantastically ridiculous.
But if you Annabelle, in your own self aggrandizing way, think that your Eames knockoffs are somehow different from any other Eames knockoff, I salute you.


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anabelle
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01/03/2011 8:15 pm  

Prices are fantastically ridiculous?
My Eames knockoffs? I purchased custom furniture from Modern Conscience. That must mean it could only have been an Eames knockoff right? Because that is the only possible conclusion to draw.
Right, brilliant.
And their prices are fantastically ridiculous? $225 for a Modernica reproduction dowel base or $100 for a Modern Conscience reproduction dowel base. Both are identical to each other. You do the math. Yes $100 does seem like a lot more than $225 to me too, you are so right Lunchbox.


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niceguy
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01/03/2011 8:20 pm  

give me a break
Anabelle,
You deleted aggrandizing morons woodywood and Lunchbox from the "title" of your message. It shows that you edited on 01-Mar-11 08:12 AM shortly after I posted my reply. Now you are a liar. This rates lower than an aggrandizing moron.


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Lunchbox
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01/03/2011 8:22 pm  

Modernica
Why would you even compare yourself to them?
They were once licensed and own original nuts and bolts from the Herman Miller machine.
Their prices are ridiculous as well, mind.
But what have you to justify your knockoffs?


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anabelle
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01/03/2011 8:24 pm  

Niceguy...
Right, niceguy, liar, namecalling, what? How is that useful?


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anabelle
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01/03/2011 8:37 pm  

Not mine.
It sounds like you think I'm somehow part of Modern Conscience.
I want to make clear here that I am not associated with Modern Conscience, I am just a former customer of theirs. I don't need them coming after me for anything I've said here. I'm just trying to defend their products because I am exceedingly happy with what I've purchased from them.
I purchased some vintage Herman Miller seats on Modernica barstool dowel bases from Modernica this past summer. Their original presses broke and they weren't making the fiberglass so they had rounded up some vintage Herman Millers.
I've heard a lot about the Herman Miller / Modernica war so I asked them about it.
They said that yes, at one time they were licensed with Herman Miller to make the Case Study storage units, but that they had nothing to do with the fiberglass for Herman Miller. They purchased the original presses (not the molds, they made their own) from the original owners of the Zenith factory, and then they apprenticed the fiberglass chair craft from those same individuals.
I have a lot of respect for Modernica as well, but honestly their bases and Modern Conscience's are virtually identical. And I think we can all agree that if we're going to bother with a knockoff you might as well get a great quality base for a fair price.


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niceguy
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01/03/2011 9:29 pm  

just the facts
anabelle,
I am not name calling. You are either telling the truth that you never had the phrase "aggrandizing morons woodywood and Lunchbox" in the "title" of your message or you are lying. You did indeed edit this out. You are a liar. Nothing else you say may be taken as the truth.


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NULL NULL
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01/03/2011 9:30 pm  

anabelle
I stated that the "Modern Conscience" RXR base was fabricated, meaning that it was an old X-base attached to new reproduction runners in order to copy the prototype.
Why anyone would want to purchase such a base, in good "conscience", is beyond me.
Again, please feel free point out any other "lies", "misinformation", and "slander" that I have spread on the forum.
I look forward to your response.
P.S. I am not at all in competition with "Modern Conscience" or any other vendor of the sort. I have no interest in selling shells on reproduction bases at exorbitant prices. I'm glad that you are a satisfied customer of theirs and wish you all the best.


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anabelle
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01/03/2011 9:42 pm  

niceguy
Yes, that was in the title, for 3 minutes. It was removed because it was obviously in poor taste, that's why it only stayed up for three minutes.
Please get over yourself.


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niceguy
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01/03/2011 10:26 pm  

I know who I am
anabelle,
I know who I am and take responsibility for what I say.
You on the other hand say: Where does it say they say things that are moronic? Never accused them of being unintelligent and then you retract this statement at a later time and blame others. This is how I define a liar. Perhaps it is you who need to "get over yourself".


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anabelle
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01/03/2011 10:51 pm  

you know who you are
I'm glad you know who you are.
How is me saying I only let it stay up for three minutes not me taking responsibility for the things I say.
You're not even here to talk about design, just to have a he said, she said argument. Why?


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anabelle
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01/03/2011 11:08 pm  

woodywood
I appreciate your sincere responses.
I can see that you like to poke fun at a lot of stuff, and I'm capable of recognizing that this is in good fun and not intended as slander.
I happy to call a truce (yes that sounds like first grade).
I can't get this niceguy character off my back. Out of respect, I edited my negative comments about you and he just can't let it go.
What else am I supposed to do? This guy is relentless for no reason.


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