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Kartell Bartoli 4875 when was it made?  

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hollytf
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28/05/2008 8:45 pm  

I picked up 2 black and 1 red Bartoli 4875 chairs at a garage sale this weekend. They are marked Kartell 4875 design C. Bartoli made in U.S.A. Any idea as to when these were made?
At the same sale I picked up a Stoppino side table marked Kartell Milano Designer: Giotto Stoppino Made in U.S.A. by Beylerian Limited Patent Pending. Date for this one?
I'm new to "plastics"--any info is appreciated; thanks.


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barrympls
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28/05/2008 9:47 pm  

A photograph
would be nice


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bj
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28/05/2008 11:16 pm  

check the designaddict index...
check the designaddict index first!
carlo bartoli 4875: 1974
i have the same chair, in white. very modest design, like it a lot.


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hollytf
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29/05/2008 4:48 am  

were they always US made?
They are great chairs (sorry no photos of mine, but you can check the index). I'm just wondering if they were always US made or not & can't seem to find that info anywhere else.


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koen
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31/05/2008 12:11 am  

As I remember it...
The green and white Carlo Bartoli chairs were all over the Kartell booth at the 1974 Salone de Milano, so there is no doubt about the first year Giulio Castelli put them in production. I am quite sure that George Beylerian was already Kartell's importer into the U.S.A. at that time. But it is unlikely that they started U.S. production that early. As I remember it, there was only one mould and after Kartell had made their production they shipped the mould to Beylerian for the U.S. production. These Bartoli chairs did not stack so although they might have been shipped in parts (the legs are separate pieces) I think that George Beylerian's main reason to produce in the U.S. was import duty and also the fact that Kartell was very un reliable in their deliveries. Only when you opened the container you knew for sure what had been send. Usually it had nothing to do with the documents that had been send by mail or teleprinter. Over the years the part of U.S. made products...and designs grew at Beylerian to the point were they did not need Kartell anymore. My guess is that by 1979 there was hardly anything left but it might have been a year later so...somewhere between 1976 and 1979...


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hollytf
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01/06/2008 7:05 am  

I appreciate
the information and thanks for your excellent memory.


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