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BearWithMe
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29/04/2016 5:56 pm  

Greetings!
New to the forum, and I've been a dealer for a few decades I'm not well versed in modern design knowledge so please be kind.
I have 2 pieces I need some assistance with, I will post the inquiries separately.
First is this clock. I've read what posts I could find on here, and I've tried to do research online but I'm still unsure if this piece is rare or I'm just inept at finding examples.
It's 8" high, 6" across. It has the original synchron movement, which still works. The latest patent on the works is 2,298,373 which was issued in 1942. I thought that odd for what appears to be a 1960's clock.
I believe the clock is missing a second hand, but I'm not sure.
So, judging by the discussions here, is this an Umanoff clock?
Any idea as to model number, date, rarity?
Thanks in advance!

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niceguy
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29/04/2016 7:27 pm  

BearWithMe,
The is a Arthur Umanoff Howard Miller clock. Your research online and lack available information does not denote ineptitude nor rarity. Forum guidelines suggest you determine valuation of your goods at other easily available sources.
Further "independent research" will help you be "well versed in modern design knowledge". "Please be kind"... this is as good as it gets.


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Spanky
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29/04/2016 10:51 pm  

I did a Google image search for Howard Miller Arthur Umanoff Hexagon clock and the only one like yours to show up was on a Japanese site. There are a bunch of other non-hexagon Umanoff/HM clocks that have more image results than that one, so maybe it's less common---hard to say. Do you do image searches? They're so much faster and more efficient than text searches when the thing you're searching is very likely to have a photo accompanying the text.
Yours is indeed missing the second hand (see pic).
I don't know a lot about clocks but would assume that the works aren't any indication of anything related to the outward design (??) of the clock. Manufacturers of clocks probably just had a few different works that they used in tons of different clocks over the years.
Thanks for posting, by the way---I have now seen a bunch of clocks that I wasn't aware of before and now I want them!


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BearWithMe
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29/04/2016 11:19 pm  

Yup, that's the only image I could find as well. It's slightly different from the one I have in that it has Howard Miller on the face while mine says Meridian. That and it had replaced works.
Image searches can be frustrating, just doing a search for 'Howard Miller Clock' gives tons of results. Tons. It wasn't until I stumbled upon a result from this site that I finally got some useful information, which allowed me to use more intelligent search terms. The results are still painfully thin, hence the posting.


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objectworship
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29/04/2016 11:32 pm  

Yeah "Meridian" is the most important keyword, I think
a series of decorative items, mid-60s
here's a wall mirror-


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Spanky
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29/04/2016 11:42 pm  

Ah, gotcha, bearwithme. I wouldn't have known the Umanoff connection if you hadn't already posted it.


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BearWithMe
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30/04/2016 12:27 am  

Searching deeper-
http://www.designaddict.com/forum/General-discussion/Help-identify-GN-clock
So that's at least 2 more.


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30/04/2016 5:55 pm  

This might help. I'm looking for the companion hexigon wall barameter and thermometer to go with my clock shown on the last image...any leads?




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BearWithMe
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30/04/2016 6:08 pm  

Norm,
Thanks! That's just what I was hoping for.
So it's a model 572, electric version, it's not missing a second hand after all and the hands are original.
That catalog page is from 1971?
Thanks for your help.
Yay!
That wall group with the clock, temp and barometer is pretty cool, good luck finding the last piece!


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30/04/2016 6:45 pm  

My pleasure.
Yes, 1971 but that doesn't mean it didn't appear in an earlier catalogue.
Pic of my wall clock that I am looking for the siblings of.



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30/04/2016 10:41 pm  

A good friend gave me their Howard Miller 'Coffin' Pendullum clock that is always attributed to Arthur Umanoff. Every time I look at it, I squint my eyes and my face squirm a bit on one side...if only the proportion of those plastic chrome numerals had been made taller and skinnier like the Castiliogne clock for Alessi, I might consider using and displaying it. I actually love that it is a mechanical clock and does not rely on modern technology to keep time but there is something about the style of these clocks that just seems odd (no offense to anyone).
http://www.designaddict.com/forum/General-discussion/Please-help-clear-c...



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jesgord
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01/05/2016 6:02 am  

This is from a 68/69 catalog



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BearWithMe
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01/05/2016 6:12 am  

Thanks Jesgord, and that one does have a second hand.
Does the Meridian name on the dial rather than the Howard Miller logo mean anything date wise?


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Natalie
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29/08/2022 5:16 pm  

Hello I have done a number of hours of research and attempted to contact a number of companies. I have a clock I am trying to put a name to and thought one like it may have crossed your path. 

if anyone has any info please email me at findingmrsmith(at)hotmail.com

 

thanks

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Cjbechtel1
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01/10/2022 2:30 am  

I have a matching barometer to this wall clock but can’t find any information about it. The model number on the back is 647. 


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