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azurechicken (USA)
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30/01/2006 11:05 pm  

To what extent are we our furnishings, does your home tell the world who you are or wish you were...


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azurechicken (USA)
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31/01/2006 9:12 am  

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This is a valid question, just look at the last 30 or so threads...


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31/01/2006 3:54 pm  

This is not only....
a valid question. It's a most interesting one. Many years ago I was invited by one of the foremost design critics in Belgium, an art historian with an exceptional track record in promoting design, organizing exhibitions on design etc. The interior was an unusual gathering of anything and everything except fine furniture or other "design" objects. Hundreds of books and documents were hanging from shelves that we only supported by the books below. Whatever had been the first lay out or planning of the room had disappeared in a chaotic mixture of improvised arrangements to accomodate the changing needs of the children and the willingness to maintain some kind of viability within a growing invasion of plants, books and Dutch gin. In public he was always the most formal one can imagine. Light gray flanel suit, assorted bow tye, shiny black shoes...always paying attention that his papers, his cigarbox and the handmade cigar were well allined on his desk I have always wondered what the real person was...
In design we learn of course that one of the components of the perceived value (the basis on which the product is bought) is the ambition of the consumer to show that he or she belongs to or wants to belong to a particular sub-culture of main stream culture and to a particular social-economical level within that group. Within the complexity of our lives we belong of course to different groups depending on our different interests. Although I suspect that most of the DA forum participants choose their products (sofas) carefully, I wonder to what extend the result has been influenced by (1) trends or fashion (2) personality (3) social status (4) economics (5) etc. so this will most probably be an interesting patchwork.


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31/01/2006 9:29 pm  

Maybe it does when you...
Maybe it does when you finally reach your goal of interior design. Like anything else, a home is a work in progress. Perhaps it will best describe me when I am old.
Right now mine says "This person is really obsessed with Charles Eames." Being obsessed with Charles Eames is not WHO I am. I hope to mix it up a bit more in order to shed a little more light on my individual personality, especially since I am told I have so much of it 😉
Although the furniture is almost too homogeneous, the bits of life around are rather fugitive and therefore tell more about me than the furnishings themselves.
Not that I mention it - What are your thoughts on having a lot of one particular designer? Impressive? Boring?


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azurechicken (USA)
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31/01/2006 10:57 pm  

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I admire the focus on one thing I am unable to do it myself,I go in myriad directions(I wear a subject out then I move on).Koen, yes the public persona is often at odds with reality most designers I know...have a house in constant flux....


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01/02/2006 12:23 am  

I didn't plan on such a...
I didn't plan on such a focus. The level of admiration I have had for Mr. Eames made it to where I felt obligated to have at least a decent example of each material he used if possible. At least one good example of plywood, fiberglass, aluminum ... etc. The fact that I live in a small home made it possible for it to overrun my quarters.
It actually feels like an internal delimma when it is time for a new piece. I always have the gut desire to keep his pieces in large numbers. I am selling my beloved eames sofa more than likely ... like I have mentioned just days ago, because I have 3 sofas and that one is less functional for my purposes. I do need a lounge chair though, since I have none and my eye desires at least one chair at that scale. I am currently fighting on whether to get a womb or and eames lounge & ottoman. Either would do the service needed I believe. It's whether I want to break the natural viscious cycle of my Eamesmania. My obsessive side tells me that replacing an eames piece with another Eames piece more useful to me would soften the blow of losing the aforementioned piece. My pragmatic side tells me to stop being an obsessed little girl (though I'm a male) and get something else.
It's funny how such 'little' things can be so important to some people.


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01/02/2006 2:46 am  

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I at one time had Eames mania,I took a short trip to buy his splints he did in WW2.You will go likely go into another designer,there is alot of revisionist (thinking) on him...has been the last 5 to 6 years.I do love the (preachy tone) the moderns took in the good design years and have many books etc. from this period .At one time 1970s had an interest in Deco/30s in more (severe) forms.I prefer design from about 1945 to 1975,with many,too many sidetracks backwards like Regency circa 1810 and I have a few quite nice pieces, it can be so expensive .Invaribly you will branch out...


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01/02/2006 3:47 am  

My interests have branched...
My interests have branched out some over the years I have loved design. I love my Kofod Larsen chair and have some Bertoia, Nelson, among a few other newer designs. As of late my interests have really wandered into Danish design ? Juhl, Wegner, etc. However, as you might have experienced, the initial love for the Eameses remains as does the desire to remain faithful to their legacy. I really hate the fact I am making it sound like a religion!
Bottom line for me is this ? although there are many designers that have made pieces that I love, the entire breadth of work that the Eames have (the connections) and the their astonishing expertise with design in general (not just buildings/furnishing) make them more inspiring than the next designer.


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01/02/2006 4:44 am  

OUT OF...
Out of all the "stuff" i own , the only thing that makes sence and i will buy it again and again is Kaj Franck Teema plates/dinner set.(Arabia/iittala)
I already gave away my h.miller and knoll pieces (they are plain americana circa 50"s - they've made my granny modern but are not for me - sorry)
i also kept my Adolf Loos chairs (Thonet) , my Aalto trolley (Artek) , and Jasper Morisson's Elan sofa (cappellini)


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01/02/2006 5:04 am  

Sorry been away for a bit,,, interesting thread, this
Koen, nice anectdote, I've returned from visiting my sister and chasing very active 2&4 yr-olds around her abode. She is much like your person above, her house is in constant flux as she attempts to deal with the kids, 3 cats, a giant schnauzer and a husband who's better suited to life in a Dumpster than a modernist home. She has lovely things, including some really gorgeous stuff she bought whilst living in Madrid, but it's always covered in dog/cat hair, kid mess and husband's discarded clothing. Personally, I'd go starkers living in her place, but she adapts somehow even though her current home certainly doesn't reflect her personality or preferences.
As to AcZ original question, I am my bookcase, I think, more than my sofa. But my stuff definitely reflects me more than my husband. Only his study is really him, and that means a huge reef aquarium, ski & snowboarding crap and unfolded laundry. The rest of the house says this person loves nice clean-lined things of any era, culture or provenance. This is me. My bookcase is stuffed with books below the sight lines, but carefully composed above with my asian teapots and other interesting thinga-ma-bobs. It changes often as I showcase things that interest me most at that moment(right now I'm loving a wonderful pair of old celluloid faux-tortoise shell eye-glass frames, ala James Joyce), I think I agree with whitespike, my home will reflect me most at the end of my life.


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01/02/2006 5:18 am  

"I already gave away my...
"I already gave away my h.miller and knoll pieces (they are plain americana circa 50"s - they've made my granny modern but are not for me - sorry)"
The next time you make such an unfortunate decision feel free to let me know 😉
No offense, but by saying "knoll" and "heman miller" you are hastily discarding many individual designers at once. I think you would be more impressed with many of the products if the history behind them were known to you.
Perhaps you do know their histories. But I cannot fathom someone passing off the inventiveness of the eameses, the literary prowess of nelson, the architectural greatness of saarinen, the talented sculptor harry bertoia, and all in one sentence!


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01/02/2006 5:38 am  

CLEAR THINGS OUT
My previous massage was a metaphor spiky
The only thing that i consider worth having is Kaj Frank.
And... the things i wont dare to give away is Loos and Aalto.
All the rest is crap (of course including eames/bertoia/nelson !)
Let's keep Saarinen though !


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01/02/2006 5:53 am  

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and spiky . The story behind matters only.
Owned by a design addicted persons doesnt make a piece of junk a masterpiece.
Theres a big difference between masters and mass-cult figures.
In the "cult" segment , i would only consider Warhol as a master.


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whitespike
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01/02/2006 9:42 am  

"Owned by a design addicted...
"Owned by a design addicted persons doesnt make a piece of junk a masterpiece."
I never said it did.
"Theres a big difference between masters and mass-cult figures."
I never said there was.
Do you have to keep calling me spikey?


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azurechicken (USA)
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01/02/2006 4:19 pm  

Eames is as (important), most...
Eames is as (important), most likely more (important)than Kaj Frank.Frank is first rate no question.Eames holds a place few do in world design. That Knoll and Miller are two companies that hold a place in world design is impossible to question.


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