Design Addict

Cart

Help with restoring...
 

Help with restoring color to Eames Fiberglass shell - Gone Brown  

  RSS

Chairwoman
(@chairwoman)
Active Member
Joined: 2026 years ago
Posts: 8
15/09/2016 9:22 pm  

I have purchased 8 shells, bought them as Ochre. they are Cincinnati shells with raised logo's but no Herman Miller so I think they are pretty old.
When I removed the shocks I found really tough white adhesive which is a struggle to get off (any suggestions would be appreciated) I then found that when I sanded back where the shocks had been, some of the chairs have white circles & some Lemon.
I am perplexed. what do I do with them?
I am now presuming they were possibly White & yellow chairs that have turned Ocher over time, is this possible ? has anyone any ides how to get them back to the possible original color (I have tried bleach) or is it possible another color of fiberglass would be used under shocks, although I can not see why this would be.


Quote
tktoo
(@tktoo)
Illustrious Member
Joined: 15 years ago
Posts: 2275
15/09/2016 10:48 pm  

It is certainly possible, likely even, that the resin binding the fibers has turned brownish over time and prolonged UV exposure. That two different-colored chairs would age to the same "ochre" tone, though, does seem odd.
Posting some pics might help to better understand what you've described.
Sometimes heating old shock mounts thoroughly with an electric hair dryer can help to soften the adhesive and ease removal, though sanding is always the final step. Masking off the immediate area with blue painter's tape before sanding is recommended to help avoid scuffing surrounding surfaces.


ReplyQuote
Chairwoman
(@chairwoman)
Active Member
Joined: 2026 years ago
Posts: 8
15/09/2016 11:13 pm  

I have just added 2 pictures white stuff is just the white adhesive residue. You have see the area the shocks were removed from is so different. The second pic is the colour that the chair is all over. I am stumped.


ReplyQuote
tktoo
(@tktoo)
Illustrious Member
Joined: 15 years ago
Posts: 2275
15/09/2016 11:36 pm  

Yeah, looks like they've suffered prolonged UV exposure. Nothing can be done about that. Some of the colorants used faded more than others, too.
Any gloss left on the contact (upper) surfaces? When the fibers start to let go and the surface gets "scratchy", sanding and clear-coating is often the only practical solution to making them useable again. Also, it's possible that they're somewhat brittle and less flexible than when they were new. Inspect for signs of cracking in the usual spots.


ReplyQuote
Chairwoman
(@chairwoman)
Active Member
Joined: 2026 years ago
Posts: 8
15/09/2016 11:59 pm  

Thank you, I would not say they are scratchy, still have an amount of shine. Are you saying then that nothing will bring the color back, not even sanding? Would you think the color change would be right through then?
They have no cracking etc, look in good shape apart from color difference.


ReplyQuote
tktoo
(@tktoo)
Illustrious Member
Joined: 15 years ago
Posts: 2275
16/09/2016 12:18 am  

I wouldn't touch them aside from adding new shocks. And, yes, the fading/darkening likely goes straight through. On the plus side, I bet they show great translucency!
Try to find a white or clear adhesive to mount the shocks. G-Flex from West System or another 2-part called "Plexus" might be worth a try. I haven't used either for this application, but both seem appropriate. Maybe ask shock mount supplier. I have used PC-11 (almost white) on shocks with steel backs and been disappointed. PC-7 is awesome, but it's dark gray.


ReplyQuote
Chairwoman
(@chairwoman)
Active Member
Joined: 2026 years ago
Posts: 8
16/09/2016 12:31 am  

Actually they are not that translucent. would you just do a light sand & recoat? was planning on changing to narrow mount dowel base, but this will leave the colored patches where the old shocks came off.
Is this discoloration common?


ReplyQuote
tktoo
(@tktoo)
Illustrious Member
Joined: 15 years ago
Posts: 2275
16/09/2016 12:45 am  

I wouldn't recommend sanding. I'd just leave the spots and consider them honest evidence of the chairs' history.
I suppose you could try sanding a small area on the underside to see if it exposes fresh color, but sanding will expose more fiber ends, too. And consider the labor involved in doing a whole chair never mind a set.


ReplyQuote
Chairwoman
(@chairwoman)
Active Member
Joined: 2026 years ago
Posts: 8
16/09/2016 1:09 am  

Thank you for you advice. It is a shame I will not end up with quite what I planned they were not even that cheap. But I am sure they will still look ok.


ReplyQuote
leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
(@leif-ericson)
Illustrious Member
Joined: 15 years ago
Posts: 5660
16/09/2016 1:12 am  

I know nothing about eames fiberglass chairs, but I live in a place with an enormous quantity of UV light. I think that you would have to sand very deeply to get rid of any evidence of UV damage. For instance light will pass through the glass fibers and deeper into the chair than if it were just resin.
I wonder if they were sanded a while back, coated in Penetrol, and now the Penetrol has discolored from subsequent UV...?


ReplyQuote
Chairwoman
(@chairwoman)
Active Member
Joined: 2026 years ago
Posts: 8
16/09/2016 1:51 am  

So if that was the case would I be looking at removing the penetrol. I have seen other white chairs that look similar over time with penetrol.
How would I go about removing that. I have also been reading about cleaning fiberglass boats that have discoloured with UV & they use a type of boat/car cleaner?


ReplyQuote
Chairwoman
(@chairwoman)
Active Member
Joined: 2026 years ago
Posts: 8
16/09/2016 1:58 am  

Just found these pics on modern conscience http://www.modernconscience.com/blog/tag/fiberglass-chair-repair/
Similar colour changing from the before to after.


ReplyQuote
tktoo
(@tktoo)
Illustrious Member
Joined: 15 years ago
Posts: 2275
16/09/2016 4:08 am  

Well, color me pink. I'd get on the horn to Modern Conscience and see if they'll divulge their technique if I were you. If all it takes is treatment with the right sequence of solvents and oxidizers, then by all means try it.
Experimenting on a small, unnoticed areas first is always recommended.
Please let the forum in on results, Good luck!


ReplyQuote
Chairwoman
(@chairwoman)
Active Member
Joined: 2026 years ago
Posts: 8
16/09/2016 5:13 pm  

I have emailed them & hope for a reply. Will update here if I have success.


ReplyQuote
Share:

If you need any help, please contact us at – info@designaddict.com

  
Working

Please Login or Register