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brbeard
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06/10/2011 10:42 am  

I picked up a pair of these Gerald Thurston tripod table lamps for a song today (they're on their way to me...be gentle USPS). The sad news is that at this point in their lives, they are without their shades...

And I'm fully aware that I will NEVER be able to find a shade like this (let alone two), so I'm prepared to put my DIY skills to use here.

On that note, does anyone on the forum own a shaded version of this lamp and, if so, would you be kind enough to hook a kid up with some shade dimensions? I can always use the photo to sort of extrapolate/approximate dimensions, but being able to be exact would be awesome...

The most important dimensions to me are:

Diameter of top hoop
Diameter of bottom hoop
Distance between the bottom and top hoop
and, well, any other info you might think's pertinent!

I've attached a picture of the lamps in their ideal state. In time... 🙂


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Joe E
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14/12/2011 10:48 pm  

Hello, I'm looking for a...
Hello,
I'm looking for a replacement lampshade for this lamp.
Table Lamp designed by Gerald Thurston


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TinyArmada
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16/12/2011 3:20 am  

Same same
We have one of these floor lamps also.
The forum will hate this, but instead of having the old shade reproduced custom, we decided to go with a barrel shape and have it custom made to fit the lamp.
We can always get one done as in the original if we don't like the new shade (hasn't arrived as yet).
If anyone on this thread is intending to get a shade made, I want to know as we can go in with you guys to get the shades made - it will be cheaper than just one or two being made.


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norm
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16/12/2011 1:06 pm  

Floor lamp
I have an original shade for my floor Version of this lamp. When I get moved back in to the house (plaster, paint, floor work being done) I'll measure it if you think that would help.


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TinyArmada
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16/12/2011 6:31 pm  

That would be excellent.
Perhaps also some photos showing the view straight from the top, too.
looking forward to this.


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jdip
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16/12/2011 7:56 pm  

A need a few myself
but have not been motivated to have them made. A while back, someone with a flickr account was nice enough to provide me with detailed measurements and photos. As you are probably aware, the shades for the floor and table versions of these lamps are the same size.
Attached is a link to the photos. If one or more of you decide to have them made, please let me know. I may finally decide to make the move and get some also. Kind of grown used to having them shadeless.
Attached is a pic of the most recent one I picked up. I dont think I would put a shade on it as I think it is great just like it is. Have it in my office at work. The versions that have the black legs and white cones do look a bit bland without a shade though.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/30106237@N06/5041892090/in/photostream/


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jdip
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16/12/2011 8:09 pm  

Me again
So that is the link to the Flickr account to the guy that was nice enough to provide the photos/measurements.
Here is the pic of the last floor version I picked up that I have in my office.


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TinyArmada
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17/12/2011 3:36 am  

Thw wiggles
Did the wiggles attack your lamp?
anyways... thanks for the photos. Can we get an inside measurement on the internal ring; a true height (bottom to top to give us the slant angle), and if I may ask, a ruler up against the "clips" as those are going to be tough little buggers to get made - but pretty darn important.
I think we all appreciate this, and then I guess, if we can get a squad together, we could do it in bulk and save.
Sound good?


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jdip
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17/12/2011 4:37 am  

sorry
As I said, that is not my Flickr page. That guy was nice enough to post those pics for me. Just set up a Flickr account. It is free. Then you can contact him and ask for the required measurements etc. He is very nice and will likely do it. I myself do not have a shade or would help you out.


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Joe E
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12/04/2012 2:14 am  

Gerald Thurston lamp Shade
Hi,
I was wondering if you still have this shade. I would very much like to replace mine.
Thank you!
Joe


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gary of brooklyn
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12/04/2012 5:23 am  

Sorry I didn't see this sooner,
just last week shipped off a pair to Rago for auction. Not sure it will help, but here's a photo.


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SDR
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12/04/2012 6:44 am  

Anyone can
have a shade made. There are lampshade shops all over the world. I can't imagine that much would be saved by buying "in bulk" -- that is, 6 or 8 shades instead of two. And each of you owners might have different fabrics in mind.
It is remarkably easy to make a shade. I made my first one recently. You need the top and bottom hoops. To copy a shade you have already, you make a pattern by rolling the shade over the material for one complete revolution, tracing the top and bottom edges as you roll it. Then add a small amount at one end for an overlap of the material. I made my shade out of medium-weight art paper. Once I had the pattern, I cut it out and glued the seam, checking first that the two wire hoops would fit into the top and bottom with a bit to spare.
After the seam was glued, I placed the shade upside down and set the upper (smaller) hoop into it. I glued this in place with a bead of white glue running all the way around. Then I did the same with the lower (larger) hoop. (You need to keep excess glue from smearing on the shade, as it will be seen when the lamp is on -- unless you are covering the shade with an opaque material.) When the glue was dry (overnight), I trimmed the excess paper with a sharp X-acto knife. At this point I had a very nice simple shade. Because I was copying a traditional shade, with binding top and bottom, I used an artist's masking tape (because it matched the color of the paper, and because I couldn't find a paper tape), running it along a lightly penciled line parallel to the edge of the shade, leaving enough to fold over inside the shade. Then I coated the inside with spray lacquer, to give the paper more substance.
There is probably a way to arrive at the pattern when the top and bottom diameters (the hoops) and the height of the desired lampshade are known. Further research would reveal that method, I imagine. The smaller and larger arcs that represent the edges of the lampshade are true arcs (portions of a circle) and are drawn from the same center-point (because they remain a consistent distance apart on the finished shade. That's a start . . .
Whoever gets the pattern first should be able to transmit it here, numerically, to others who wish to use it. The diameters given will be those of the flat pattern as well as of the hoops (four different numbers altogether) -- assuming that all owners have access to the same pair of hoops. Owners could acquire their own hoops (the upper one with a central spider to suit the lamp) and fabric or paper.
Here's my shade, partially finished. The hoops have been glued; the clip is holding the paper at the seam, against the place where the wire is welded (slightly irregular on my shade). The hoops came from the discarded (damaged) shade, which I was able to use to make my pattern before cutting it up to free the hoops.
I include only one of several online sources of lampshade hoops, chosen at random and not tried by me.
http://www.lampshadeframes.net/


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Joe E
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14/04/2012 12:28 am  

Thurston Lampshade
Hello Gary and SDR,
Thanks for all your helpful info. Here's the best photo of the shade I'm trying to reproduce.

The paper had a mellow gold/copper color to it with a light mesh material affixed upon it.
Any ideas?
Here's an example of what I don't want... http://www.etsy.com/listing/74430472/mid-century-gerald-thurston-lightolier A barrel-ish shaped shade.
The key component to this lamp is the shade, inspired by the sputnik era, so it needs to look like a satellite - hence the metallic paper.
Cheers!
Joe


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tchp
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14/04/2012 8:14 am  

I also have this same tripod...
I also have this same tripod lamp with no shade. Some time back I found an image of what I believe is an original shade, showing that it had wire clips that rest on the three shade support studs, rather than it just being the ring that rest on them. I assume that this wire is soldered to the top ring of the shade.


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Joe E
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21/04/2012 1:28 am  

Shade
Thanks, TCHP. Nice find!


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