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Poach
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06/07/2009 6:11 pm  

routered shock mount surface
I've never seen routered mounting surfaces on a 670 chair. It is, however, the standard on the "potato chip" chairs.


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Tulipman
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06/07/2009 8:48 pm  

Routered shell is a short cut
It's a quick way to get to the fresh wood rather than messing with solvents to dissolve the residue from the old shockmount/glue.I purchased an Eames walnut lounge chair from Home Office Solutions which had the mounts replaced by Herman Miller.I noticed the wood was routered away around the shockmounts.Easy to to,but not so tidy looking.


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Tulipman
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06/07/2009 8:50 pm  

Poach,which version of Scotch Weld?
There's Green,Tan,and Opaque,I believe.


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FurnDesignStudent
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06/07/2009 10:20 pm  

Also...
how much do you think it would take for all four shockmounts? I was hoping one 2 oz. kit would take care of two shockmounts in hopes that I won't have to buy a whole pint.


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Tulipman
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06/07/2009 11:20 pm  

2 oz size
Would be more than enough,as you don't need tons of it,just make sure there's enough to form a bead around the shock mount,so it doesn't travel


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Poach
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08/07/2009 7:21 am  

Scotchweld 1838
Tulipman,
Make sure it's the 1838 variety. Scothweld is 3M's generic name for a whole family of industrial adhesives. The Scotchweld 1838 that I've used is translucent. One tube is water clear, and the other has an amber tint to it. Of the three choices you put forth, I'd guess it's tan. There's no color listed on the package. It's "Scotchweld 1838 A/B L". I assume that the "A/B" denotes it as 2-part epoxy. Not sure what the "L" is.
Furn,
The 2oz package is PLENTY. No reason to buy more, unless you're going into production. I've repaired dozens of chairs, and have been using the same pair of tubes for more than 10 years. A dime-sized dab from each tube is enough for each lozenge mount, or a pair of disc mounts. Be sure to mix it very thoroughly. Remember, this isn't 5-minute epoxy. You've got all the time in the world to get it right.


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FurnDesignStudent
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08/07/2009 7:29 am  

Thanks Poach...
I've ordered my shockmounts and will be ready to go soon. I know it is an ambitious project as I will be fabricating my own lower back shell as well! I'm going to laminate my own bent plywood using a double-sided form (male and female components) and then cut out the shape from a template I have made from the original. Hopefully, if all goes well, I'll have some nice pics to post in the coming months!


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Tulipman
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08/07/2009 7:56 am  

WOW!-That is ambitious-fabricating your own shell??
Will you be making a Rosewood shell? That is awesome!!Please post photos when you're done.
Poach-thanks for the tips! I also heard PC-7 is a great epoxy paste,very effective for this purpose,too.


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Poach
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09/07/2009 6:09 am  

Homemade shell?
Wow, I want to see this, too.
I'm a bit skeptical about the male / female molds. Non-production molded plywood components are typically formed with a single-sided mold and a vacuum bag. The vacuum bag eliminates pressure variations that can result from imperfections in a 2-sided mold.
Please document the process, and post to the forum.


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FurnDesignStudent
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09/07/2009 6:40 am  

I'll keep you posted...
The two sided mold is just my first thought. I do have access to a vacuum press and professional help (thank god for design school). I'm going to kick the idea around with some people while I wait for the shockmounts and glue to get here.
And Tulip, yes I plan on using a Rosewood veneer. I am going to try my hardest to match the original condition. HM really seems to have done a hack job on the previous repair. Routered where the shockmounts attach and didn't even bother trying to color match the replacement panels which I believe are oak or ash. Plus it seems as though they sealed the new panels with poly instead of an oil finish. I'm going to be taking pictures to document the whole restoration from start to finish. I'll post a link after I've made some progress.


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Alfie
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12/07/2009 8:06 am  

Eames Lounge Shock Mount Failure
Hello Special K Product.
How are the ebay sales going for your Eames ES670 lounge chair shock mounts with 'shear' plate.
Are all your customers happy?
No complaints right.
Are they all aware that you are offering a warranty for as long as they own the chair (About 50 years usually)
Does that mean that if their chair should break and fracture due to installing your inferior parts you will repair the damage for free or you will return their 20 bucks for the failed part and leave them up a creek with a polyurethane paddle.
Keep up the fantastic eBay sales as we love a bit of friendly competition at Humemodern.
**Your customers become our customers at the end of the day.**
(edited: no advertising on the forum, thank you)


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14/07/2009 11:24 am  

Dear Patrick and Alex ...
Dear Patrick and Alex
I am the first to agree with your no advertising on the forum, as i know you like to keep it from becoming a advertising blog.
Several people like my self and Alfi Hume are well known in the industry,
When we read bull shit stories about people trying to fix there chairs, with inferior parts or redoing leather, or buying crap leather, i know it makes not only me cringe but Alfi to.
I have never tried to get work off this forum as most everyone knows me and how to get in touch with me.
I do hate to read the DIY person getting them self in trouble and ruin a really nice classic. but I don't want any one accusing me of looking for free advertising on this forum, for cheap advise, having visited with Alfi many times I am sure he agrees with me.


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FurnDesignStudent
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14/07/2009 12:06 pm  

LRF
if you don't want to read "bullshit stories" than stop reading.


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essai
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14/07/2009 8:10 pm  

Dear Lloyd, We have...
Dear Lloyd,
We have always accepted and encouraged well-advised comments from professionals on the forum. If people like you who actively participate to the forum would indirectly generate a commercial profit, it would not be a problem for us. You have never used the forum to directly advertise your company and we thank you for that!
The part of Alfie's message that we have removed was very, very clearly promotional. Each time he writes on the forum, he tries to promote his services. It is not acceptable.
We don't accept advertising on the forum for two main reasons:
1. It makes the reading disagreable for the visitors. We want you to be able to read the messages without having the permanent impression that someone is trying to sell you something.
2. We have an offer for companies that want to advertise on DA. We cannot, at the same time, ask advertisers to pay and tolerate that others advertise for free. It wouldn't be fair towards our clients.
If someone wants to advertise on DA, he can contact us to ask our prices. By promoting their services on the spaces reserved to that end, they will be considered positively by our visitors and no more as parasites that benefit freely from our work.
I hope that this clarifies our position.


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Tulipman
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14/07/2009 11:20 pm  

ad forum?
Patrick and Alix-I agree!I think many MCM enthusiasts have praised Alfie's work,as ,no doubt,it is indeed superlative.However,whenever and wherever the subject of diy Eames lounge repairs comes up,here's Alfie with his shameless self promotion as well as this Peter Triestman who makes and touts his wooden(??)shock mounts.In fact ,many similar forums have turned into a war-like exchange of posts by the two,who also eschew the Special K shock mount product.Very disconcerting!
I had delved into the diy aspect of this because I am confident of my skills and simply would rather make a wholehearted attempt to repair the one shock mount that had become cleanly detached.I simply felt that the effort expended would be less than that of disassembly and shipping,not to mention repair costs.Furthermore,PC-7 is less than $10.00 and though is not the perfect factory method of attachment,provides what I feel is a superior bond with the least muss and fuss.I think DA members are well aware of their options when it comes to this subject,and do not need to have the professional restoration people chime in with their contact info ad nauseum.


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