Eames Labels  

labels.
Yes. To start, no labels... prototypes and prepro peices had nothing or work guiding letters and numbers, then the Zenith transfer (plastic sticker not paper) label. The transitional chairs had large shockmounts to start. Some chairs had the rope edge, some did not. Some had the zenith label without the rope edge. As they were "transitional" they could have had a variety of traits. After the zenith label was the venice label. A small rectangular red label. I think it mentions made in venice california...eames.. bla bla.. I will have to look at one of my chairs if you want the exact wording. these chairs again I have seen with and without the large puck shockmounts. again, being transitional the chairs with the large mounts and rope edges were phased out and if there was stock left or found later they would have utilized the materials available to that point in the manufacturing process. You will often see the venice label on the earliest side shells. Not as many on the armshells for some reason. The paper label with the patents came in later around the mid to late fifties as well as the medallion. The metal medallion was used a lot on institutional applications from what I have seen and come across. The stamped HM or stylized "h" logo was utilized in the 60's on. Hope this helps..

Thanks, so...
it is possible for a shell, especially one in lemon yellow that is translucent with small shockmounts an and no label to be transitional?

probably not.
yelow is nice...
probably not.
yelow is nice though.

Thank you again..
Thanks again. The yellow is very pale and very transparent but it is the smaller schocks that rule out transitional correct? So at one time it more than likely had the Herman Miller Patent Paper label that fell off/was removed. Are these your thoughts?

yes.
yes

Thank you..
You have been a great help.

Are you saying red labels are...
Are you saying red labels are the earliest Herman Miller label, after the transition from Zenith?
Just found a red label arm shell rocker and a red label arm shell on eiffel.

Medallion
Was first used in the mid-to-late 50s, I believe.

The red sticker on my shells...
The red sticker on my shells say "designed by charles eames. herman miller zeeland michigan. shipped from venice california."
They have the large mounts. No rope edge.
What factory was in California? Zenith?
So were these made by Zenith or Herman Miller or someone else?
And based on the large mounts, no rope, and red label what year(s) do you think they might be?

"Shipped from Venice"
refers to 901 Washington Boulevard in Venice, California, otherwise known as the Eames Office (the original location from 1943-1988).

California
Yes, Zenith was located in Gardena and produced the shells for Herman Miller. Eames Office was located in Venice. Rope edge was only made the first year (1949-50), but I suspect some leftovers may have lingered into subsequent years. Yours are probably early 1950s.

so my shells i am assuming...
so my shells i am assuming were made at zenith and shipped from the eames office?
excuse the mess!

No, dude...
Your chair was manufactured and shipped from the Eames Office in Venice, just after the earliest(Zenith) productions and just before Herman Miller took over the production process.
By my calculations, that would make it an early or more likely mid 50's production as Summit Plastics was well underway by the late 50's.

I didn't realize that anythin...
I didn't realize that anything was ever manufactured AT the Eames Office.