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24/09/2008 9:22 pm  

I bought a set of five David Rowland Sof-Tech chairs that he did for Thonet around 1979. I'm going to resell them. My question is, do I break up the set and sell them by the piece or keep them together?

When selling traditional antiques, the rule of thumb is never, never, never break up a set but that doesn't seem to be the case so much with MCM. In fact, there seems to be a preference in this genre for owning just one of a piece. Am I incorrect? The only time it appears to be desireable to keep a set intact is for pairs of lounge chairs or sets of dining chairs.

I'm planning to sell them by the piece, unless you all come storming back at me to tell me I am an idiot. My chairs look just like this one, except the webbing on mine is blue.


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24/09/2008 9:28 pm  

Depends on the buyer's goal
If it is to be included as part of a collection or just for display, the buyer would probably just want one. But if the chairs are to be actually used (e.g. for dining), then a set would be desirable.


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Robert Leach
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24/09/2008 9:41 pm  

Strictly
speaking, is 5 chairs a set anyway ?
Surely chairs come in 4s and 6s?
I'd probably sell the 4 set and the single seperately


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24/09/2008 9:46 pm  

Dining chairs are more valuable as a set, generally
The question becomes: are these dining chairs?
I sort of see it as a dining chair, myself-- but sell them however you think you'll get the best price. Nothing 'immoral' about breaking them up, IMO.


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24/09/2008 9:50 pm  

Five's a set
if you've a round table that'll only accommodate five.
I've heard that Westerners think of sets as even numbers, whereas the Japanese buy sets in odd numbers. Can anyone confirm or deny? I can't recall where or when I heard this, it may be hogwash...


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24/09/2008 10:25 pm  

I like the idea of selling...
I like the idea of selling just one and then a set of four. I have seen ebay auctions where the people are bidding on one, with the understanding that the rest would be available to them at the winning price (each).


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24/09/2008 10:33 pm  

I've heard the same William....
I've heard the same William. To my recollection, even numbered sets are considered bad luck, while odd numbered are good luck and harmonious. Whether that's the correct or is the whole story remains unresolved for us both.


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Robert Leach
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24/09/2008 10:53 pm  

All
the dining sets I've shipped to Japan have had an even number of chairs
Unless they toss one overboard for luck on the way there ?
😉


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24/09/2008 11:03 pm  

Uneven sets make me nervous.
Uneven sets make me nervous.


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Robert Leach
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24/09/2008 11:08 pm  

Don't worry
a Google Image search of 'Japanese Dining Room' shows only even numbers of chairs, that I can see ..
When there are chairs.


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Riki
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24/09/2008 11:25 pm  

When is a set not a set?
Y'all are cracking me up. Don't take the term so seriously. I use the word set to describe anything more than two. I will call it a group or ensemble or bevy or herd of chairs from now on.:)
WHC, I don't know if I'd call them dining chairs, either. They are really informal. Maybe for an eat-in kitchen or something. They would also look good in a teenage kid's room or maybe around a card table in a rec room.


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24/09/2008 11:43 pm  

Even numbers are unlucky
In Japan, when you give wedding gifts, such as cups, dishes, etc, you always give sets that cannot be divided evenly, as an even number of items is considered bad luck (increasing the possibility that the couple will split up). I have never heard of this rule being extended to dining sets (which generally are not purchased as gifts).
I imagine there are plenty of families that do what I did when I lived there...sat at the kotatsu in a vain attempt to keep warm while eating. No chairs, just zabuton (big pillows for sitting on).
Selling a single dining chair can be difficult. I've had some really nice single chairs that wouldn't move because nobody had the set they wanted to fill in. If you sell all 5, you'll probably have better luck.
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30/09/2008 10:30 am  

The rule of thumb
Riki,
The "rule of thumb" in business is always, I repeat always, sell for the highest possible profit margin possible. The method that puts the most money in your pocket is right. Who cares what purist think, they are almost always have nots dictating to the haves. Let them be pure and poor!


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30/09/2008 9:20 pm  

Oh, how
nice -- the Bottom Line is heard from !
Over time, pairs and sets have brought a premium, compared to the sale price of single items.
Breaking sets will always be a loss to the possibility of matching groups, an eternal human ideal. The opposite is entropy, nature's randomness.
This is a dining chair, based on its form: a typical upright-posture chair, with minimal horizontal dimension and a vertical stance.


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30/09/2008 10:16 pm  

I understand the rule of thumb is businesses exist to make money.
but is there ever space in the equation to perhaps do more then is expected. Or make a little less to enhance a business' reputation and allow the generated good will to sow the seeds of more business.
Short story: There are about 35 houses on my street, 30 of which are serviced by three separate landscape companies.
One of the 5 homeowners in the cut-it-themselves camp moved and left the house in care of a realtor to sell it. The realtor never had the grass cut.
Two of the landscapers tended the properties on either side of the uncut grass property and both of their respective clients asked each of their landscapers if they might just knock down the tall grass as a favor.
They didn't want it done every week, perhaps once in 7 or 8 weeks. Both landscapers attitudes were, and I'm quoting here: "You gonna pay me? I ain't cutt'in no grass unless I get paid."
The third landscaper who cut the grass across the street from this house ran his mower across the street and in about 6 minutes knocked down the grass when it was really starting to look unsightly. No one asked him to do this, he took it upon himself so that the whole street would look nice.
Word got out amongst the neighbors as to what he had done. Can you guess who now cuts 27 of the 30 lawns on my street. This 3rd guy went from 9 accounts to 27.
Sometimes there's profit, and sometimes there's purity, but oftentimes a little bit of integrity and doing a bit more than is expected can lead to a lot more profit. At least that's been my experience.


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