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19/12/2010 10:43 pm  

A bit a Deja Vu, didn't we...
A bit a Deja Vu, didn't we discuss pronunciation before? Where's that thread.
MOMA printed a book back in the 60's that included a paper sheet addressing artist pronunciation. I should've bought it...not that it would've contributed much to this particular discussion but handy to have around.


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20/12/2010 1:10 am  

Marcel Brauer my ...
Marcel Brauer my daughter came back from design school and pronounced it Marcel Brouw er like eye brow , I say Brew er like brew beer what is it wise ones?


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20/12/2010 1:37 am  

Braun
Braun = brown..and also means brown in German.
Marcel Breuer is Hungarian, so I'm guessing Broyer?


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20/12/2010 4:18 am  

Um
"Prove
Reetfelt
Bowman
Vonsher
...
Broyer"
[phonetic translations into American English]


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DudeDah
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20/12/2010 5:14 am  

Here's one...
what about Wegner?
I've heard VEE-ner. Is that correct?


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Pegboard Modern
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20/12/2010 9:55 am  

I've heard that too
and I thought they said "Hans Wiener" as in weener.
... as in:


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20/12/2010 4:08 pm  

My guess
Would be "Vegner", like the German Wagner.


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Dana@mid2mod
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03/06/2011 1:17 pm  

Milo Baughman and other pronunciations
I emailed Brigham Young University where he taught for a number of years, and they told me it's pronounced "Boff-man."
I also wrote to the North American headquarters of Carl Hansen and Son, who have manufactured Hans Wegner chairs for decades, and they said his surname is pronounced "Veg-ner" if you're speaking English and "Vee-ner" if you're speaking Danish.
I've listened to countless videos and other recordings of interviews with designers, curators of museums, manufacturers and the like, and I have compiled a list of pronunciations. It is by no means definitive nor is it meant to be prescriptive, but if you're interested, you can find it on my blog.
http://goo.gl/QqYvK


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04/06/2011 3:20 am  

Wegner
Wegner is "Vie-nehr" with hardly any r on the end and I think what they call a glottal stop in the middle. The two syllables are clearly articulated, anyway. I pronounced it "Wegner" once to some Danish friends and they looked at me blankly and then burst out laughing when they realized who I was talking about. That's the last time I ever did that! Around them, anyway.
There's a great site, Forvo.com, where you can type any word in any language and get at least one pronunciation and sometimes a bunch by someone who speaks that language. If the word isn't in their files, you can ask that it be added. Then they notify their members who do recordings of the request and BING! Someone records it and uploads it! And you get an email saying it's been added!
Words are so fun.
http://www.forvo.com/


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Dana@mid2mod
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04/06/2011 10:09 pm  

Forvo
I use Forvo and think it's a great site, but if you'll notice, right now there are three pronunciations of Wegner's name on Forvo, and none are the same. One says Veeg-ner, one says Vine-er and another says Vig-ner.
Just as there is confusion about how to say the name among Americans, there must also be confusion among Scandinavians.
That's why I contacted Carl Hansen and Son and decided to go with their pronunciation. They worked with Wegner and now work with his daughter Marianne Wegner Sorensen, who took over leadership of his studio in 1993. I figure they've actually heard the name pronounced by Wegner and his daughter themselves.
Here's a link to the content of their email to me. (Of course, in the overall scheme of things, it probably doesn't make a bit of difference how we say it. His designs speak for themselves.)
http://mid2mod.blogspot.com/2011/05/potato-potahto.html


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05/06/2011 8:31 am  

Curtis Jere
Generally pronounced by big dealers and serious collectors as the signature reads (first part is an initialism) "see jerae". Leave the J in there. That part of the name is derived from the first name "Jerry". Since there is no such person as Curtis Jere, it seems most correct not to fill in anything.


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Dana@mid2mod
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05/06/2011 4:54 pm  

Interesting article about C. Jere'
Yes, I agree with vintagedamage.
According to an article by Mitchell Owens in the November 2010 edition of Elle Décor, the pronunciation is see jhair-AY.
http://goo.gl/4DsC2


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Spanky
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06/06/2011 3:51 am  

Dana, there are different...
Dana, there are different pronunciations of Danish words depending on where the Dane is from in Denmark, so maybe that's why the pronunciations of "Wegner" vary a bit. (And one of those guys is from Iceland, so.)
We lived in the small town of Fredensborg and there were a couple of pronunciations of that. And worse was Helsingør, a town in north Sjælland. The people who lived there said it very differently from Danes who didn't live there. As in, it barely sounded like the same word at all.
Anyway, like I said, words are fun.


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Dana@mid2mod
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06/06/2011 8:34 am  

Spanky, I guess it's
Spanky, I guess it's really not so very different from all the regional pronunciations in the States. And names are even harder to pin down. If you lined up five people named Wegner, they might all pronounce it differently...and they'd all be correct.
That's why I finally decided to go with the pronunciation provided to me by someone who knew Hans J. Wegner and his daughter personally. It was starting to give me a headache. 🙂
Sometimes words are fun...and sometimes make you run in circles.


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Arthur Sixpence
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06/06/2011 2:18 pm  

Wegner!
This should sort it out once and for all, seems no one was correct (wheg-na?)
*listen around the 1.20 min mark*
http://blip.tv/furnitology-productions/icff-hans-wegner-and-knud-erik-ha...


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