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15/03/2018 4:49 am  

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15/03/2018 3:49 pm  

Just wondering: What makes you think that this could be Arne Vodder?

"People buy a chair, and they don't really care who designed it." (Arne Jacobsen)


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15/03/2018 5:02 pm  

The obvious similarity to his bovirke designs and the France and sons sofa. Also the quality and being an earlier piece. I know people are all about the proof on here, but if you are around furniture every day, your guesses can have a high success rate.


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15/03/2018 5:11 pm  

Which Bovirke and France and Daverkosen/Son pieces are you referring to? None are jumping to mind for me.

There are numerous Danish pieces which resemble each other, but are designed and made by different parties. Marked examples and vintage documentation help to separate fact from fiction.


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15/03/2018 5:26 pm  

I tend to respectfully disagree. I'd give a lot of weight to seeing a piece in person and having a knowledge of construction and design styles, as a base point from which to start gaining an attribution.

I am a little more hesitant if this wasn't an export piece. You can never trust a seller's account.

There was a difference between the export market stuff to Canada where I'm located and the stuff that I've seen that's been brought from Europe.

I'm not an Etsy or dibs seller trying to make a huge profit by slapping a fabricated name on something. I work with the stuff every day and am actually passionate about it.


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15/03/2018 5:36 pm  

I'm not quite sure what you're disagreeing with. I was curious as to which Bovirke and F&D pieces your sofa resembled. I am unfamiliar with any and am interested if there are models that are similar. I do not see any in the Bovirke and F&D / F&S / Cado catalogs that I have.

Construction and design features are certainly good starting points for trying to figure out a designer/maker. Could you provide some specific design features about this sofa (besides the quality and being an earlier piece) that would point to Arne Vodder. From the manufacturer side, it would also be helpful to see construction details which would match with AV's designs for Bovirke, F&D, Sibast, Vamo, etc. From the one overview shot provided and my recollection of AV designs, I do not see any indication so far that he was the designer.


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15/03/2018 5:41 pm  

As a case study for my above comments, here is a F&D chair with missing cushions. Can the designer be determined based upon its appearance?


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15/03/2018 6:34 pm  

Although the back on your example has that vodder triangle the whole chair is far too sloppy for him. Beech and flat pack joints would tell me early FD, which your lable confirms. Not too many designers worked for them early on from what I've read, so that really narrows down the list if who it could be. Sloppy early FD stuff like that is usually wanscher, but it could be just a less known designer. Don't have time to upload and point out the vodder similarities with my piece or a few other designers that I think it could be. I'm a cabinetmaker student and I don't have time for much other than school lately.


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15/03/2018 7:45 pm  

ok. good luck.


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15/03/2018 9:02 pm  

All good. I wasn't right on the Vodder, but it was just a guess and sometimes you go down a different path. Think I found it, but I have to double check the construction details and do some more digging. Randers. jens Hjorth.

The best thing about being forced to dig is that ID'd a bunch of other stuff on the local classifieds that I can scoop up.


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15/03/2018 9:13 pm  

Some slight detail variations, but that looks to be the same design.

I like it much better with the slender exposed wood shell back and the thin seat padding. And a Bruun Rasmussen attribution from a 1954 Randers Stolefabrik catalog is pretty solid.

That would go quite nicely in my living room bay window, which ironically currently houses a sloppy Wanscher fd109/2 settee.


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15/03/2018 11:53 pm  

It is strange that the back of the armrest on the Jens Hj


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16/03/2018 4:17 pm  

by the way, the chair (model fd 172) was designed by Peter Hvidt and Orla Molgaard Nielsen in 1954.

Proof is always better than conjecture.


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16/03/2018 4:34 pm  

[slow clap]


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16/03/2018 4:44 pm  

You can easily spot work by the same maker once you know their shop signatures, but spotting work by the same designer can be very, very hard. I do know a guy who is quite good at it, but still it is a hard business.


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