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mark737
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11/09/2021 12:01 am  

Funny, I was just about to post a similar question after finding a number of pieces attributed to Jensen and Kjærulff Rasmussen,  like this chair on the DFI and the ones in your links.  Though the DFI has the name as "Rasmussens"

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fredhh
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11/09/2021 12:15 am  

Very mysterious, the only thing that comes to mind is the literary quotation of Bertolt Brecht:

"Wir stehen selbst enttäuscht und sehn betroffen, den Vorhang zu und alle Fragen offen."

From "The Good Person of Szechwan"


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leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
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11/09/2021 12:42 am  

@herringbone has done a bunch of research and found the family of H. Kjærnulf.  His name was Henry Kjærnulf.  As I recall he was born with a different last name.  I don’t know why he chose to use H. instead of his full first name, but it might be because Henry sounded very English and he wanted to be seen as a Danish designer, which makes economic sense given the time.  Using just an initial was an established pattern but generally it indicated that one was not an architect but rather a factory owner, so Henry was making himself into “the exception that proves the rule”. 


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leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
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11/09/2021 3:05 am  

Here it is: https://www.instagram.com/p/CEP05wJIgFz/


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mark737
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11/09/2021 4:18 am  

Thanks, Zephyr.  That's a great, comprehensive summary of his life and career.  I guess the only question not answered is where Henning came from.  Personally, I'm just going to start calling him Hank Rasmussen and see if I can get that going.  


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fredhh
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11/09/2021 9:49 am  

Well, someone is writing on Instagram and that is taken as evidence, not bad. 🙄 

Such stories are worthless without references to their sources.

And what is the result of herringbone's "bunch of research" on an irrelevant third-class designer?


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11/09/2021 5:50 pm  

And here I thought I was cranky this morning... 🙄 


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mark737
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11/09/2021 6:27 pm  

We should all be so fortunate to be as irrelevant. 

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fredhh
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11/09/2021 10:31 pm  

The attribution of these chairs to Jensen/Kjaerulff seems to be one of the countless fairy tales on the web.

When you look at the rustic designs by Jensen/Kjaerulff, it's hard to believe that they should have designed these chairs.

Are these chairs marked somewhere, do they have a stamp?

And who the hell is Richard Jensen?


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leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
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12/09/2021 4:06 am  

@fredhh That someone on Instagram is a friend of mine and a serious researcher named Oliver Fischer. I have no idea who you are and I don’t know why you feel the need to insult me, Oliver, and a long dead danish architect who went by H. Kjærnulf professionally.  Why does it bother you so intensely that someone spent the time to figure out who was behind that name? You seem surprisingly angry considering this is about an “irrelevant third-class designer” as you say. Is there something else going on here that you would prefer to discuss?


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fredhh
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12/09/2021 11:07 am  

Aha, a "serious researcher", who works without reference sources and publishes on Instagram. Very interesting.
There is no reason to feel insulted, my dear, I only doubt attributions, if you can not take it, then you obviously have a problem. Relax and have a nice sunday.


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leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
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12/09/2021 3:14 pm  

I do not know anyone who would argue that Instagram is a good platform for anything other than what Facebook intends to encourage. And Facebook does not intend to encourage scholarship. But then the audience for scholarship is 1/10000000 the size of the audience that Instagram does encourage so I understand utilizing the medium because in today’s world it is close to all that we have. It intentionally does not give a lot of space for extended text so yeah citation of documents and transcripts of interviews are not going to happen there. It does however offer you, the inquisitor, the easy opportunity to reach out to the scholar either via comments or private messages so you could ask about said sources. That is what you should do!


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fredhh
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12/09/2021 6:25 pm  
Posted by: leif ericson - Zephyr Renner

 It does however offer you, the inquisitor, the easy opportunity to reach out to the scholar either via comments or private messages so you could ask about said sources. That is what you should do!

No, it's up to him to publish the sources, if he really wants to be a "serious researcher". Otherwise it's just one of the countless stories on the web.


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12/09/2021 11:44 pm  

I understand the knee-jerk skepticism to reading something on the internet. But I'd suggest whoever you feel the onus should be on to provide sources, that in this instance it's not the case. I agree with Leif in that if you feel something is false you should reach out and discuss it.

As with most investigative journalism/research (if I may call it that) sources tend not to be forms of definitive documentation and rather a cross examination of known facts against accounts from individuals. It's down to the accuracy of those accounts and the verification of the sources. 

You probably ensure your news comes from a source you trust to be reliable. The credibility of the person doing the research or journalism is what's left if the accounts have been recorded and the facts cross-checked. And as someone who's posted here reliably over the years I think for most of us, we didn't feel the need to question Oliver. 

If you have an expectation that out there exists a definitive, carbon-dated, biography with indisputable provenance on Henry Kjaernulf, I am sorry to break it to you that it may not. 

 

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For the record, I don't think skepticism about attributions is a taboo here. I think it's generally welcomed, even encouraged. 

But Oliver is not selling you a set of 4 Henry Kjaernulf chairs on his instagram, and he's also using up the entirety of his available word count with well written text and images collected from his sources. I think maybe your cynicism even at face value is a little misplaced on this one.


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leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
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13/09/2021 3:31 am  

I think the most interesting question so far in this thread is whether Henry Kjærnulf also designed pieces that were credited to the last name Kjærulff Rasmussen?  And here is another possibility that I’ve always wondered about.  Is this K. Rasmussen the maker of this chair (there was a company K. Rasmussen), or is it an abbreviation for Kjærulff Rasmussen, or is it something else entirely?  

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