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Ernest Rams
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20/09/2017 11:40 pm  

Dear all, I wonder whether anybody of you has ever seen such a table. I know that from the picture I'm posting it's hard to say, but that's all I have. Interestingly, in the same living room appears to be a couch which was sold separately a week ago as soon as it was posted, for actually quite a high price.

Thank you for your help.

Yours faithfully,

Ernest.
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Zephyr
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20/09/2017 11:57 pm  

Hmmm, strange that the couch sold for a lot....

.... sticking with the France theme, I must say it looks a lot like the minimalist teak sofa/coffee table by Hvidt & Molgaard Nielsen. As you state, hard to tell from the photos though......


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Kyle Barrett
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21/09/2017 12:13 am  

I will say though aside from the obvious, the rest of the furniture looks incredibly unremarkable.

I don't think the coffee table is any different, maybe it's not worth investing too much thought in!

I especially don't like the look of the different colour between the table top and the legs. Something about that doesn't scream quality design to me.


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21/09/2017 12:14 am  

Looks like Finn Juhl's Japan sofa to me, which would explain the high price.


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Zephyr
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21/09/2017 12:31 am  

Yeah, I was being sarcastic.

Google "Minimalist Teak Wood Coffee Table by Peter Hvidt & Orla Molgaard Nielsen, Denmark"

Since both pieces were made by France and Sons/Daverkosen, I think it is reasonable to believe that it is this table. But without better pictures or physically looking at the table, it is going to be next to impossible to know...... or unless they tell you that there is France badge a fixed to the bottom.

Regardless, I quite like the table, it is 'so very honest,' as Mark would say. I think the color variation between top and legs is due to wear.

Good luck, and let us know what it is if you go pick it up.


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Zephyr
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21/09/2017 12:31 am  

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DrPoulet
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21/09/2017 12:41 am  

This is indeed a Japan sofa by Juhl. And the poor thing has probably been reupholstered at some point.

I don't know what to think of the table. It does look like a generic teak table from that period but the combination with the sofa is intriguing. Might be worth checking out if it's not too far away. Anyway, you can be pretty sure that if someone owns a Japan sofa, it is probably not the only Danish modern piece in the house....


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Kyle Barrett
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21/09/2017 1:06 am  

I have definitely come across expensive anomalies! Especially when they've been bought in a period when the design was less desirable.

I assumed Zephyr was being sarcastic, but I don't know is Ernest was! 😛

I'm still not sold on the table, it does look 'generic' - but sometimes those are the things that slip under the radar.


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Ernest Rams
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21/09/2017 10:57 pm  

Dear all,

I must admit that your intuition keeps impressing me. A few more pieces to the puzzle.

The -now identified- sofa was sold for 800 CHF with the option "buy now", so I guess that who bought it knew what it was and did wait the end of the bidding. Interestingly, in the same living room there is another chair produced by France and Sons, with the same upholstery as the couch, still on sale, without, unfortunately, the option "buy it now". I guess they guy that bough the Juhl sofa is now waiting for the end of the action to place his bids. It will most probably appear in one of the local vintage shops for 5000 CHF or more, with new upholstery.

About the table: it would be strage that in the middle of two France and Sons pieces there is a generic table, at this point. The top looks really nice, but I agree that the legs are odd. There is no picture from the bottom, which would tell at least how the legs are attached to the top. It's really far away so I have no option to go and have a look at it. There is a "buy it now" option for 450 CHF, which is too much for something so hard to judge.

It's a jungle out there!

I'll keep you posted.

Thank you and kind regards,

Ernest.


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Ernest Rams
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21/09/2017 11:06 pm  

Another view of the table... the identity of the chair in the back is obvious even to me, imagine!


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Ernest Rams
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21/09/2017 11:11 pm  

a few corrections:

... did NOT wait the end of the bidding.

... THE SOFA will most probably appear


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leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
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21/09/2017 11:16 pm  

It is not a France and S


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Ernest Rams
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21/09/2017 11:59 pm  

Thank you, leif! Here some more closeups from the best I can zoom in, just to give honor to your intution that the top is not solid wood.

Cheers

Ernest.


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leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
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22/09/2017 2:48 am  

I would actually say that it is beyond intuition. Grain patterns don't lie. If you look at them long enough and inquire as to how veneer is cut vs how wood is cut, it is clear as day when you are seeing most veneer. There are of course other ways of slicing veneer that are more similar to how wood is cut, and so it is possible to give more of an appearance of solid wood if that is actually the intent.

You can see the edge banding underneath the veneer top in that close up.

It is not very common to see edge banding captive under the veneer in Danish Modern. There are only maybe a dozen cases I can think of. I don't think any of them are pertinent in the least, so I won't mention them.


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Zephyr
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22/09/2017 4:55 am  

Yeah, I see my error now. I still think that if all the other pieces were France that it would improve the odds that other pieces are France(certainly not definite, but if I were paying closer attention, I would have seen that the table were veneer. The book matching of the grain on the top is a give away. Solid pieces of teak are rarely that wide, and H & M table for France is clearly solid. The mystery continues then...


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