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LRF
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06/03/2008 7:28 am  

First let me say that any one that trys to do there part to save the planet Is A O.K. in my book

So now that i have said that .....

I think there are a hell of a lot of Hippocrates out there !!

Is it really necessary for magazine after magazine to jump on the band wagon just cause it sells good magazine or makes interesting press.

I think it is getting over blown when you see metropolitan magazine, Dwell, El Decor and so many others every month trying to do a story but it just dont really cut it,

I for one have no idea how to heal the planet or even do my part., I am not giving up my SUV, changing the fabric, on the chairs, I might turn the temp up or down, I might consider driving from point A to point B once a week instead of every day, but to me a big monthly glossy magazine is not going to cut if for me and be my instruction manual.

Perhaps you good folks might come up with some reasonable ideas, no need to waste any ones time with off the wall ideas, cause that is what they are off the wall ideas, that you or I really can not conform to.

I really feel that in the next 25 years we will face some real challenges, with oil at $250.00 dollars a barrel and gas at 8 bucks a gallon.
and the ozone not existing anymore and on January 15
the temp in Chicago would be a nice warm 85 degrees.
and in Phoniex in June 145 degress.
I guess it could be Orwells 1984 all over,


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finch
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06/03/2008 10:39 am  

I think this post rather...
I think this post rather perfectly illustrates the inevitable backlash I referred to in a previous thread -- green interface.


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Olive
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06/03/2008 11:30 pm  

Well I for one would be happy with lots and lots of Hippocrates, but
not so happy with a lot of hypocrites.
I'm also torn when it comes to magazines. Dwell has been doing stuff on sustainability for a while now and they do it better tham many of the glossies. In fact they've gone non-glossy and now print with soy-inks on recycled paper. A good move for putting money where the mouth is. I have been ditching my printed subscriptions over the last few years cuz I can't stomach the amount of waste that a magazine contributes to landfill.
As far as doing you part goes...first of all erase the word 'green' from your lexicon. It's a color, not a philosophy, and right now it's a fad and fads are bad.
Second, think about what you do. Live consciously, buy consciously, create trash consciously. Do that and you will find yourself making better choices. What the average person can do is about using less. Not living in a lesser way but consuming less. As our resident DA eco-warrior Heath will say... a simpler less comsumer-istic life is a richer fuller happier one and I am inclined to agree.
Just think 'Do I really need/want this?' before plonking down the cash for one more whatever it is and you will have helped improve our lot here on earth.


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LuciferSum
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06/03/2008 11:40 pm  

i'm not convinced
I'm not convinced Green as a label is a bad thing. Words have a lot of power! Being sustainable, being simple, being eco-friendly all fall under the greater umbrella of...what? Its true, Green gets a lot of superfluous lips service, but if it works in a way that allows a broader number of people to grasp a complex issue, I'm all for it!
And to answer LRF's question: What does green mean to you?
Green is making responsible decisions. Everything we do is a choice, and usually there is one way of doing something that is better than the other - not necessarily easier, just better.


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kdc (USA)
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06/03/2008 11:44 pm  

unfortunately, green sells
our culture has a way of taking something good and giving it so much glitz and spin that it turns our stomachs sour.
mine included.
"green" has quickly assumed tribal qualities: if you're not a member of the tribe, you're suspect on many levels. it's as popular now to claim ownership to the title as it has been to bash martha stewart or bill gates -- two highly gifted people by any standard.
so then, the advertisers, spin wizards, cultural elitists and whoever else are once again successfully bastardizing the purity of a worthwhile initiative to the point of repugnance.
and i'm already sick of it.
i honestly hope it's just a passing phase on our way to greater sanity in our collective quest toward responsible environmental stewardship.


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Olive
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07/03/2008 12:18 am  

Responsible Environmental Stewardship
The right words, but unfortunately a non-mellifluous polysyllabic mouthful. But please not 'green' it's a terribly non-meaningful label. 'Eco-aware" perhaps?


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rockland
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07/03/2008 7:25 pm  

Greed In the Name Of Green
Greed In the Name Of Green
To Worshipers of Consumption: Spending Won?t Save the Earth
via http://materialicio.us/
By Monica Hesse
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, March 5, 2008
Congregation of the Church of the Holy Organic, let us buy.
Let us buy Anna Sova Luxury Organics Turkish towels, 900 grams per square meter, $58 apiece. Let us buy the eco-friendly 600-thread-count bed sheets, milled in Switzerland with U.S. cotton, $570 for queen-size.
Let us purge our closets of those sinful synthetics, purify ourselves in the flame of the soy candle at the altar of the immaculate Earth Weave rug, and let us buy, buy, buy until we are whipped into a beatific froth of free-range fulfillment.
And let us never consider the other organic option ? not buying ? because the new green consumer wants to consume, to be more celadon than emerald, in the right color family but muted, without all the hand-me-down baby clothes and out-of-date carpet.
full article in the Washington Post...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/04/AR200803...


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Olive
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07/03/2008 9:44 pm  

Brilliant article
absolutely brilliant. Less IS more...
Please spend some time on the Wikipedia page for 'sustainability'. It's very thoughtfully written.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sustainability


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finch
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08/03/2008 12:08 am  

Less is more, indeed; you...
Less is more, indeed; you hear it often enough, but I wish more people would truly glom onto this sensibility. Whatever happened to discipline? Save your money, spend a little or a lot more on something that lasts a little or a lot longer so that you need a lot less of whatever.


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LRF
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08/03/2008 12:25 am  

great answers folks glad ...
great answers folks glad i raised the question
every now an then we get some thing in here that requires some real thought........right mates?


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