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Kyle Barrett
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19/06/2018 10:12 pm  

Hello everyone.

I hope this is okay, as it's not my sideboard, but I had to share this item I found on a Danish classifieds site. It's listed for 300,000DKK, which is a fairly hefty sum,the likes of which constitutes a good annual salary.

According to the advert, only two were made designed by Ejner Larsen & Axel Bender Madsen for master furniture maker Willy Beck. It also states that it was owned by the maker, so I don't really know what to make of that. It's 3 metres long, with beautiful tambour doors. Absolutely stunning and it's entirely new to me.

Anyone with a catalogue out there to confirm this attribution, I'd be interested to see.

Failing that, if someone would like to indefinitely lend me a good annual salary up front, I'll find space for it in my apartment.

Regards,

Kyle

P.S Once I've established if it's okay or not I'll happily post the link with more internal pictures
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19/06/2018 11:13 pm  

I think it's okay and I really enjoy looking at the pictures. Especially the drawer sides with the perfectly cut dove tails. Would love to see more. (But I don't know if my opinion matters)

"People buy a chair, and they don't really care who designed it." (Arne Jacobsen)


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20/06/2018 12:15 am  

The first question I would ask is whether Willy Beck has a documented design with that metal base (or any metal base for that matter). If the answer is no, then that should give you a good indication whether the classified ad claim has any merit.

I would also note that the wood on the sides of the drawer does not look like half a century old.

It is quite a striking piece.


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Kyle Barrett
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20/06/2018 1:29 am  

I definitely think some critical thinking is in order with this.

https://www.dba.dk/anden-arkitekt-pragtmoebel/id-1045452167/

Extra photos there of the interior. All worthwhile.

I don't know that I've ever seen a piece manufactured by Willy Beck with metalwork involved, but I can't say my knowledge of Willy Beck items is extensive.

Those dovetails were definitely hand cut as it were, so it's from a cabinetmaker rather than mass produced at least. And as far as the design goes, it's prolific enough to have been handled by one of the master cabinetmakers.

Is that a fair assumption to make? I don't think designs like this were coming out of random cabinetmaker's shops.


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20/06/2018 2:04 am  

It's safe to say that this is Willy Beck. I have no definitive proof at hand, but the furniture index lists a wall mounted cabinet that looks very similar.

You can find the same piece in "Dansk M

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leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
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20/06/2018 5:09 am  

It is all about documented provenance that it was owned by Willy Beck and designed by Madsen and Larsen and one of two ever made. And there is no evidence the seller has any of that. Even if it happens to be true, it needs to be documented, otherwise value will not follow and it is a very well built unknown danish cabinetmaker piece.


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David S
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20/06/2018 7:19 am  

I have a dresser set by Larsen and Madsen for Naestved Mobelfabrik with leveling foot pads. The credenza appears to have similar foot pads that can be leveled


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Herringbone
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20/06/2018 1:12 pm  

Leif: I would follow your argumentation if I was considering an investment, But as long as we only talk about who made this piece, I think there is enough evidence to say that it was designed by L&BM and probably executed by Willy Beck. Can we agree on that?.

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leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
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20/06/2018 1:43 pm  

Sure absolutely. In fact here is even better evidence for it within the Danish Furniture Index:


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leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
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20/06/2018 2:00 pm  

I always like to see the layout cut marks around the drawer side dovetails and tiny overcuts around the dovetails showing this joinery was actually cut by hand with a saw. You can see just a slight overcut on a few tails from the very last saw stroke.


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20/06/2018 2:11 pm  

Yes, I noticed the overcuts, also noticed the marks. I can hardly imagine what it takes to make a piece like that only with hand tools.

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Kyle Barrett
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20/06/2018 2:37 pm  

This was my thought exactly, Herringbone. I wonder how long it took?

Also, is that even counted as veneer when its that thick? Or is that just some form of edge banding and it'll be a normal layer of veneer behind that edge? It looks like end grain to me.


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leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
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20/06/2018 3:21 pm  

The entire piece was most certainly not made with hand tools. For a master cabinetmaker it does not take a long time to cut out dovetails for a drawer side, but it does take experience and skill, which is why factories used complicated jigs and power tools to do this.

And bear in mind that not all Danish cabinetmaker dovetails in all places were cut by hand. Rud Rasmussen has a machine to cut dovetails for the Mogens Koch bookcases. In fact the machine predated the bookcase and is presumably part of why it was designed in solid wood with dovetail corner cases. Often fully visible dovetails were cut with jigs and power tools because they come out more perfectly regular and without layout cuts that would have to get sanded out.

This is why drawer sides were so special, they were allowed to show the signature of the maker in construction and execution.


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20/06/2018 5:21 pm  

How do you know about the technical equipment at Rud. Rasmussen's? I'm really courious to learn more about how the master cabinetmakers worked but I find it difficult to find sources.

"People buy a chair, and they don't really care who designed it." (Arne Jacobsen)


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20/06/2018 6:25 pm  

It was in a digital copy of a book I found on the Internet all about the history of Rud. Rasmussen. It would have been 5-6 years ago now. Don


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