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ltreat37
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31/08/2012 1:40 pm  

antique table with ugly poly coating help
we recently inherited a lovely antique table with what could be a very nice large marble top. however, it has an old poly coating on it that i can't get off. tried mr clean sponges and a mild spray indoor use paint remover, nail polish remover. guess the next step is the heavy duty paint remover. but what to use as a tool? don't want to use steel wool or sandpaper, plastic scraper not enough. any ideas?


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LuciferSum
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14/09/2012 1:43 am  

Maxwole hack
Maxwole - does your designer friend work for Bauhaus2yourhouse.com? Because you sound a lot like what their website claims. (Link provided as an illustration of an astro-turfing poster, not as advertising)
http://www.bauhaus2yourhouse.com/collections/eero-saarinen/products/eero...


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TinyArmada
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14/09/2012 11:42 pm  

The answer is...
I have some very good information for people on this thread.
Beware applications of almost most products on marble. Often they will seal with a gloss, and then when a hot or cold object is placed on them, this will cause eventual failure - and leave a smokey circle for half an hour.
Marble is porous and requires the same protection as does concrete.
The correct way to seal the marble is to use a two part clear epoxy designed for finishing stone/concrete tops used in restaurants and bars. Forget the household stuff - it is cheaper, will wear out and fail.
Get the kind that does not require a UV lamp to cure it.
It remains clear and provides a shell that is unmatched - you don't even have to use coasters anymore. You want to use this because it is designed for concrete and stone tops that are ALWAYS porous no matter how many decades they have been allowed to "dry". They prevent all entrance of particles and are designed to withstand even blades briefly contacting the surface.
The bad news is you will spend $120.
The good news is you can forget coasters, freaking out about a vase you should have picked up and moved rather than shoved, spilling wine, coffee - even acid. It is food grade safe too - you can eat off of it.
They are extremely resistant to scratching and impacts
And it cleans up with most household cleaners.
For a Marble top used for a coffee table, side table or Kitchen table, I doubt you would need to worry about resealing for 20 years or more if you use the right stuff.
I did some research for a bar in downtown charleston and found the answers - and used it on our Marble Eero tables - we have two from 1956.
They look like the marble is brand new - remember the two part epoxy takes 16 hours to cure and using their nano formula it fills in every single minute rippled or crack (even if you can't see them, they are there) and gives it a mirror finish.
We even use aluminum objects on our tables now and are unconcerned with scratching.
Or, you can call in a restaurant concrete counter top laborer to use the UV lamp required curer with the right formulae so it cured in minutes if you want - lasts the same amount of time and totally protects the marble.


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15/09/2012 1:01 am  

Yes, but
aren't epoxies usually applied very thickly -- like 4-6mm minimum? Epoxy-covered bar- and table-tops that I've seen have an "encased in Lucite" look that I'd find unappealing on my own tables.
And don't epoxies yellow when exposed to UV?
Also... I just did a quick web search for the heat deflection temperature of epoxies, and the data sheets I found say it's pretty low: 120-140 degrees F (50-60 degrees C), which is about the surface temperature of a hot cup of coffee. If you rest a 130-degree coffee cup on your table for a few minutes, does the epoxy soften and dent?
http://www.systemthree.com/reslibrary/tds/SYS3_TDS.pdf


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TinyArmada
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15/09/2012 3:30 am  

True for most epoxies
Yes, most epoxy will yellow. However, some will not, there has been quite a leap in the last 18 months and it is still taking time for the products to seep out into the market.
This epoxy has a rating of several hundred degrees, while some if not most are subject to lower temps - the new products were made due to the obvious nature of kitchens and bars where temps like hot coffee, plates and searing food should be expected to come into contact with the surfaces.
The coating done was only 1 mm in thickness, and yes, there are epoxy coatings that can be very thick.
I guess the right thing to do will be to post up the data on the maker of the epoxy, but even then, I would totally understand someone hesitating to use it.


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fastfwd
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15/09/2012 4:33 am  

Yes, please do post the info.
I'd love to know more about this magical new epoxy.


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fastfwd
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18/09/2012 11:41 pm  

Tinyarmada...?
I'm still hoping to learn the name of that epoxy.


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scratched
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06/12/2012 12:49 am  

scratched in knoll clear coating
hi everyone, there are some interesting posts in this thread, but i am really wondering if anyone has found a way to fix a scratched table top? never mind we "should have bought a different one" or "marble should be finished differently". we have that table, it has a scratch and i want to get rid of the scratch. It also has a small chip on the corner, but that is a different story.
please help!


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06/12/2012 1:16 am  

A picture would help.
But even without one, it's easy to recommend Novus plastic polish.
http://www.novuspolish.com/products.html


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IMTreble
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09/12/2012 9:40 pm  

ANY solutions to this coating issue??? please!!
I have a marble coffee table from early 90's, rust/white. It too has what the furniture store told me was an "acrylic" coat. Until a few years ago had no problems, used the table like a work horse!! Then a loser I was involved with spilled glue on the table and I've no idea how but he managed to crack the coating as well. I love this table and just do not want to give it up!! I looked for the Aggro mentioned but cannot find a US distributor 🙁 I live in San Francisco, CA any new suggestions on what to use to remove this coating?


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fastfwd
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10/12/2012 1:33 am  

Look in the phone book
or Yelp or whatever, and call stone-care specialists until you find one who'll sand the old coating off your table and apply a new coating.
The Australian product mentioned by Steve Whitford above is now available in the US and being used by numerous contractors; maybe there's one in your area.


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25/03/2013 4:33 pm  

My table has the same problem and no one at Knoll cares
This is amazing that Knoll has this issue and they wont do anything about it. There are several cracks and bubbles in my table. It ruins the look of what is a very expensive piece of furniture. There should be someone who has fixed this and it should not be such a big deal. I am disappointed that Knoll will not respond to my emails. Repairs need to happen I get it but how do you put a product out find out that it has a flaw and then ignore it? Shocking really.


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28/05/2013 9:18 am  

Knoll 47″ Arabescato marble restoration
Check this link, there are some prices.
http://www.marblerestoration.us/knoll-47-arabescato-marble-restoration.htm


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23/11/2019 6:09 pm  

Hi there

I know it has been quite a while but we are looking for the same thing: what coating or epoxy does knoll use on their marble table? Ours needs a new finishing as well... hopefully you can let me know about the Tenax and the feel of it? Does it feel warmer? Thanks!


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williamsonoma
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23/11/2019 9:39 pm  

Any updates on which product to use?


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