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rockybird
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22/02/2009 3:44 am  

I just purchased a painting by "Paul Klee." I know it's not the prettiest painting...but could it really be signed by the real Paul Klee? I cant find this work anywhere else online, so I am suspicious. Regardless, I dont think it is especially valuable. I just discovered his work and thought his stuff is really unique and thought it would be neat to own something by him.


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22/02/2009 4:59 am  

Seems dubious...
Where'd you buy your Paul Klee painting?


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22/02/2009 5:13 am  

It's a print, with a printed signature
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http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-mid-century-modern-KLEE--serigraph-Eames-ERA...


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22/02/2009 5:17 am  

It is not his style, nor
the typical Paul Klee signature...so chances are that whoever spend $140 on it has paid mostly for the frame....


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rockybird
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22/02/2009 7:26 am  

LOL
That would be me...
Oh well. Live and learn. I still like the pic.
I dont think I should be allowed to buy anything on ebay anymore...


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rockybird
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22/02/2009 7:26 am  

oops
double post


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rockland
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22/02/2009 10:46 pm  

Key word-serigraph
A print.
My parents have a few from 50 years ago. Images they liked and still do.
And only worth the price of the frame.
I don't think your frame is worth that. Oh well.
You may have paid a bit more than you should have but not a bank buster
mistake, as long as you like it.
I just ran across this artist and think it is quite good.
http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/drawinghermit


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rockybird
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23/02/2009 5:24 am  

lesson learned
I bought it late at night when I was half asleep. Next time I will not make any rash uninformed decisions, especially at 1 AM.
I still dont have the print as I dont think it has been shipped yet, but I will not stop the purchase as I blame myself for my ignorance. He never said it was an original. You are right, Rockland, it is not a bank buster, and I will find a place in an extra room to put it.
That is a neat piece of art, ROckland. I agree.


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25/02/2009 6:30 am  

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They say its a vintage Paul Klee and it is not a Klee...feel free to send it back.They state you have seven days to return it.


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25/02/2009 6:58 am  

I think their description was accurate--
it looks to be a 40-50 year old Paul Klee print, judging by the frame. Framed prints of this nature were common in the 1950's/ 60's.


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rockybird
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25/02/2009 8:03 am  

I'll let it go
The mistake was due to my own ignorance. I shouldnt have been so hasty. I just dont think it's worth fighting. I am beginning to wonder though if anything on ebay is what it appears to be?


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Fungus Mungus (USA)
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25/02/2009 9:20 am  

Been down that road
eBay is lousy with dubious "lithographs" of masters like Miro, Dali, Chagall, etc. Some are legit...particularly those that have been removed from books, such as the "Miro Lithographs" series or "Derriere Le Miroir", although those are rarely signed. Always be careful with "signed" lithos...almost all of the ones on eBay are fakes.
Serigraphs are generally copies of paintings, but they can be copies of lithographs as well. "Offset Lithographs" are simply photo-mechanically produced images...i.e., plain old printed posters...the lithographic process isn't used at all.
If you're ever thinking of dropping big $$ on anything like this, always have it appraised by a reputable art appraiser. Become familiar with a favorite artist's catalogue d'raisonne and you'll avoid little mistakes (and big ones). University libraries often have major artists' catalogs. Not such a big deal getting burned on a $150 print, but it would really suck on a $8000 "signed" litho that was fake.
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rockybird
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26/02/2009 12:38 am  

thanks FM
I really do appreciate the advice. I shouldnt be buying artwork that I believe is original without some knowledge of art! I wasnt quite sure what a serigraph was, but I convinced myself that no one would market copies of signatures, but only true signatures. Regardless, I wont buy original work without seeking advice, and for more expensive pieces, I will of course get an appraisal. Thanks again!


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26/02/2009 2:32 am  

Serigraph
is the silk screen process, a traditional fine-art medium. The statement "Serigraphs are generally copies of paintings" is dubious; it would be much more accurate to say "lithographs are generally copies of paintings" because high-volume offset lithography has no direct parallel in the silk screen medium. In both media, original (signed) editions of an artist's work are found, either printed by the artist or by a studio under his or her control, as well as manufactured reproductions of artwork in varying degrees of originality and quality.
To echo and reinforce what Koen said, the "Paul Klee" artwork shown above has absolutely nothing to do with the German/Swiss artist Paul Klee (18 December 1879 ? 29 June 1940), except as an example of a minor artist (a con artist ?) attempting to trade on his name.
http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/klee/hd_klee.htm


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