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Kyle Barrett
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07/10/2017 5:19 am  

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Ernest Rams
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07/10/2017 2:42 pm  

Hi Kyle, is it the rocking version of the senator?

It's without doubt that that's a nice piece. But it is a very personal question what you are asking, and it sounds to me the kind of approval that I try to get from my wife when I want to purchase something that is not too cheap. Unfortunately the approval never comes to me, so I have to decide. I think it helps to think whether this is a piece that you want to keep with you for a long time. Maybe you can think to sell something else you have at home to recuperate some money? This kind of reasoning might help, but it certainly does not solve your doubts. It might be that the same chair pops up for a cheaper price in the future, but I understand that sometimes it is just nice to get what you wish, if you can.

All the best

Ernest.


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07/10/2017 3:43 pm  

Dear Kyle,

If it feels good, do it. A lunatic could push the button at any moment.

This message has been sponsored by the year 1967.


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07/10/2017 4:04 pm  

Why would you not buy from a dealer if it's something you really want and you can afford it? Sure, it's fun to hunt for bargains and it's thrill to make an incredible score---but there's also something to be said for having something you love vs. waiting years to get something you love just to save some money.

If you are considering buying from a dealer, though--be very, very sure that there's no hidden damage to the piece, no repairs you are unaware of, and that the upholstery meets your approval and won't have to be redone anytime soon (and that it's either original or at least 100% appropriate.)

Last, think about how you'll feel about the piece when you look at it a few years down the road: will you wince at the memory of how much you paid? Or will you just think what a beautiful chair it is and how happy you are to own it? That's probably the bottom line. Most of my stuff came from auctions but even then there have been a few things I paid more than I should have and I eventually got rid of because regret outweighed enjoyment (ok, none of them were my holy grails, to be honest).

And you're trading money for it. If you were giving up something else that you love to get something you love even more--that would be tougher. For most people it's way easier to come by money than a rare piece of furniture. Hopefully that's the case with you.


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leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
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07/10/2017 5:05 pm  

Go for it, but do bear in mind that the Senator is not such an absurdly rare chair that you will never get another chance at one.

Some pieces are so rare, they are once in a lifetime. When one of those appears pray you have the wisdom to know it and the money to buy it.


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Kyle Barrett
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07/10/2017 8:55 pm  

Thanks everyone.

Ernest, I *am* looking for validation of a somewhat luxurious purchase, it's definitely not coming from my partner! It's not the rocking chair version, just the easy chair. I would have to sell a replica Eames to house it which would recuperate some costs so you're right that helps a little. If I knew it'd hold it's value it'd be a no brainer, but as value is discussed and regarded on this forum it's an amorphous concept.

Tktoo, thanks! Great year of the best Mustang Fastback!

Spanky, I have never seen them listed for this price and I think it's due to the upholstery. It's original but not particularly nice and the rosewood is UV damaged. But I feel confident in restoring it. There's not even a rare or higher-end model of easy chair I prefer. I genuinely think this is beautiful, functional lines, modern but still very traditional as I feel most of Wanscher's designs are. So there's no doubt I won't tire of it on that level. Without treating you as my therapist, I think your first point is where my guilt lies. Everything I've accrued so far has been treasure hunting, this will be treasure buying. Feels less earned and a bit more foolhardy.

Leif, I know they're not overly rare however I don't think there's a rarer or higher-end easy chair that I prefer. Please don't misunderstand me, I would drool over the idea of a cigar chair in my living room, but I don't actually prefer the design. And if I just wanted a rosewood easy chair, I've seen plenty of Illum Wikkelso Capella chairs at great prices. But I don't like the look of those as much. But then you make an amazing point that follows on from Spanky's, which is that by using this capital it's not there if one of those silly opportunities comes up. Importantly also, won't these chairs become rarer?

Again, thank you all. I'm sure you'll either see me post it in the pickup thread in a few weeks or not - but thanks for your help.

I need to ask about condition more specifically, but dealers aren't a no-no which is nice information from people who have collections much more impressive than mine.


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08/10/2017 2:18 am  

A word about regret. You've got to let that shyte go, brother.

If you've done your homework and saved enough cash for the purchase of this specific item, go boldly with the confidence that a better example at a better price will present itself not long after the transaction has been sealed. That's the way it goes. So what? Pour a stiff one, relax in your new favorite chair, and have a good laugh. It's called living.

My high school sweetie had a '68 fastback. 4bbl carb on the 390 with Positraction rear end. The "Bullitt" car, basically, in maroon. She was faster that it was. I couldn't keep up...


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Kyle Barrett
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08/10/2017 2:34 am  

The Bullitt Car - that's it! I'm yet to save up enough to afford one of those.

I'm very lucky where I live in the UK, while I cannot afford a beautiful car I like near a motoring museum that roughly every other weekend has a meeting of sorts. I get to see so many spectacular machines. I've seen more than a handful of these driving by my house.


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Mark
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08/10/2017 2:36 am  

hi Kyle.

I think that this chair will be perfect for you.

Now, did the Boss (or Mach) offer either the 427cid or the 428cobra in 1968? Carroll Shelby was sure a pretty lady.

But you should buy the chair.

Best,

Aunt Mark


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tktoo
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08/10/2017 2:46 am  

Mark, 1967 also introduced the NART Spyder, as I think you know. Another model associated with Steve McQueen. Summer before last, a guy showed up at a cocktail party I happened to attend in one. I suspected it might be special, so, later, I looked it up. HOLY CRAP!!!


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leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
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08/10/2017 4:22 am  

Go buy the chair already!

And what do you think of this one (not very good photos, sorry)?:


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Kyle Barrett
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08/10/2017 4:52 am  

Lots of Wanscher's designs fall too traditional for me, the popular dining chairs I see listed by him I find pretty plain. While I acknowledge them, I'd forgive others for not being able to distinguish them from reproduction antiques.

The Colonial chair took me a long time to enjoy the look of. I still think I'd need a particular type of interior to house one, but it is undeniably beautiful.

That chair however is really beautiful. Sums up Wanscher designs to me, not a caricature of a chair or some overtly conceptual form, but also identifiably modern and simple. Though I'd love to see some more angles to get a better idea of the arm rests.


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leif ericson - Zephyr Renner
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08/10/2017 6:14 am  

It is a Wanscher for A.J. Iversen. Not too hard to find a few specimens out there. Here are a pair that are photographed decently:

https://www.incollect.com/listings/furniture/seating/ole-wanscher-pair-o...


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Kyle Barrett
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08/10/2017 9:10 pm  

Those look different, is one an easy chair and one an armchair?


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08/10/2017 11:56 pm  

Impressive, tktoo!

The first time I spied a Nart was on the Silver Screen! Ann Margaret was rowing through the perfectly ratio'd gearbox...double-clutching, at times, looking fabulous!. I fell "head over my high heels" in love with that Nart..and Ann Margaret.

Now my old 1971 Ford Ranger xlt pick-up truck has the big block 390cid (4bbl) under the hood. I've yanked out tree stumps with it. Snow plow is permanently attached, and even a trailer hitch. lock out hubs, beat...but incredibly low miles. The a/c blows ice. No truck-nuts. Obama stickers. Ziebarted! Remember that? I also have the rare "cargo-light" feature. A/M radio. pale blue/ royal blue 2-toned/ white roof. Original paint. no gun rack. I'm stoned.

hi,

Aunt Mark

ps . Kyle, ____ the chair.

pss. the truck came with a house that I used to own. I kept the truck. it does have a few old Ducks Unlimited decals affixed to the rear window. not even 10mpg. Runs strong. cruise-o-matic. 2 speed rear axle. original rubber floor mat. a few leaks. new exhaust. and brakes. stop me.


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