My two cents
I have not weighed in on the original poster's LTR table copy yet.
Good job overall, but way too much in a hurry, in my opinion.
The metal rod is a bit too thick. And as you noted initially, the edge needs to be beveled. These are HUGE factors, not merely refinements. This table is so simple, that all of the variables ARE the design. The "design" is the specific way all of these choices work together.
Of course I encourage your efforts as a learning or appreciating experience, or as a simple matter of budget.
But very early on you proudly mentioned that "the next one will take even less time" -- which makes it sound like more would be produced in the future.
It seems to me that if you are a designer doing something for the sake of learning and appreciating, the time factor would not be such a priority over the important refinements of the original design. Especially on the first one!
What's the hurry if you are not going to make a bunch of them? Perhaps I am mistaken, and you were simply proud of how little time it took. But if I were attempting to make that table, especially for myself, speed would be the last thing on my mind. A lifetime of looking at the table is well worth a few more hours.
Eameshead,
I dont think...
Eameshead,
I dont think youre going to be very objective with a name like that, I get it, youre protecting your 'investments'.
I also dont believe you own two original ESU's in the condition you describe. Snap a picture and prove me wrong.... Of course you won't.
I am not alone in believing that the Eames are highly overrated. Look at their overall body of work, they didnt produce very much, had success with perhaps two pieces of furniture and failed at everything else they attempted. Charles was a failed architect who relied greatly on the input of others in design and Ray was a very cute but medicore painter.
There were much better American modern designers out there, just dont listen to the hype.
Sophia
I already did post pictures of my two storage units on this forum. On a link to a tumblr blog of mine. (Many here have seen them) They are on a thread called "Show us your stuff" or "Let's see your stuff" on this very forum about 6 weeks ago. I don't appreciate your tone. So you can look it up yourself.
You are incredibly weak on your knowledge of design if you think the Eames' only produced two designs of any importance. Eames is THE American design giant of the 20th century. I believe this is rather well documented in books, world wide museum exhibitions, and the general marketplace.
I noticed you have not offered up a single example of a "traditional designer" who is more respected or more important than Eames.
(I guess you are protecting your "investment" in your utterly lame thesis)
one one hand ..
Been thinking about this all morning, and I'll be thinking about it for a while longer. One one hand, I remember my father (a designer) saying that one reason he got out of the furniture business was that any successful design was immediately knocked off. On the other hand, so few people will have the skill or ability to build a replica that there couldn't be any commercial consequence to what the OP is doing. But yet it feels wrong, and it feels wrong to say, well, it's ok if only one person does it. And of course it doesn't matter if the Eameses were good (my vote) or bad designers. The principle's the same.
eames head or anyone that...
eames head or anyone that owns a ltr or elliptical table, can you If willing, post diameter dimensions for the wire base? I used .25 rod as that is what scraps we had but since I am ordering the supplies for the ellipcal I can do correct diameters.
The reason for the less lime on the next attempt is I went ahead and made plywood welding and bending jigS and templateS which would help. Lasercutters are so fun
The reason it doesn't have a chamfer is that I didn't have correct degree router bit. I have ordered it and will be doing so in the future
@mdennis. I like the table. Did you use hypershot to render the model after rhino?
Prototyping get so expensive. I had a 5th scale bike model that had a final cost of 700 in the materials and furniture prototypes were also very expensive for materials and typically produced much waste since you were just building it and not refining to manufacturing.
Tex
You're right, I don't know anything about manufacturing.
But I have lived with and used Eames chairs, tables, and storage every day of my life for the past 25 years, so I DO know a thing or two about how well the stuff holds up.
In the nearly 50 Eames arm shells that have passed through my hands in those 25 years, exactly ONE shock mount (out of 200) has failed. And we are talking 60 year old chairs in many cases. I bought my round white topped contract base breakfast table for 15 bucks over 23 years ago and it has performed flawlessly. The soft pad chairs are simply a dream to sit in, and are an icon of serviceable high quality design to this day.
My plywood DTW coffee table from 1950 has no veneer problems whatsoever. Same with the storage units. (Speaking of manufacturing, the corner leg mounts on the coffee table were one of the very first uses of cast aluminum in production furniture design)
I did have one DAX x base fail after 25 years of everyday use. (But the shell lives on!!)
I don't just look at the stuff. I USE it every day, and is that not the test?
jesus
...the thick rod is 1/4" and the thin support rod is 3/16" .
OKAY THATS IT!! This stuff is all findable online, or ask Herman Miller to send you some specs. This can go on forever. The teacher in me wants to help, but the collector in me feels odd doing this.
Hope this helps.
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