So auto correct has never...
So auto correct has never put down another word when you meant another? Pretty sure everyone has been there.
I don't get whats your deal. You don't know who I am or my talents or current job situation or the type of shop I work in
I did this a fun project. Nothing to prove. I liked the table and it was a trial to a ellipcal table that I wanted but is out of my price range As I rather spend my saved money on a Hans wegner daybed. I have a vision in my head of a final setup and I don't see the error in fabricating a few of the peices
Eameshead,
Compare Eames fur...
Eameshead,
Compare Eames furniture with any well known traditional furniture designer of the last 150 years. You will quickly see how cheaply made their stuff is in comparison.
Have you ever seen a real ESU in person? The parts were bought off the shelf for the most part and were cheap. How are they holding up today? Delaminated veneers, rusted out joints, warped masonite, ect... How about those wonderful shockmounts? Untreated metal bases corroding like italian sports cars. Cracked arm rests. The stuff just wasnt made to last.
As far as their originality... There were plenty of California designers on the scene playing with the same materials and aesthetics before the Eames came along.
Their greatest accomplishment was the 670 (although still brittle like a 90 year old womans hips) and of course their marketing department.
Sophia
Yes I have seen a real live ESU "in person". I own two. And they are holding up beautifully after 60+ years, I must say. And I am sitting in a sixty five year old fiberglass Eames arm shell chair that looks as beautiful as the day it was made. No cracks, chips, or fading whatsoever. Original shock mounts all nice and firm, and no rust on the low base.
How'd you find your way to a design forum? You seem pretty clueless.
Until the OP makes a run of...
Until the OP makes a run of these tables to sell this thread is full of nothing but overreactions.
I've learned one thing though, never share my personal projects here because there's apparently no such thing as CONSTRUCTIVE criticism in this forum. All you will get is irrelevant ethics lectures from some grumpy old men.
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Well said M_Dennis87. To the persons attacking a student of design, you ought to be ashamed of yourselves. The OP came here with excitement of what he had done and you people have showed him that he isn't welcomed. OP, I welcome you and I also share your excitement. Good for you that you have built something so cool. I hope you make more. Maybe one day, you'll be just as famous for the Eames' for creating something new.
Lest we forget this; "Create the best for the most for the least" -Charles Eames.
And when the best is unobtainable for the most of us because it is too expensive, I say we need a change.
Now that we got that out of...
Now that we got that out of the way, I would like to add something constructive to the conversation and to the point of 'modern' furniture design for today. Maybe this will inspire the OP for future projects.
While I don't know what's available to you at the shop you work in, there is some great potential worth exploring with some of the tools that you might be able to use. I would try to work something out that you can use the machines after work hours or something.
I took a furniture design course in college which touches a similar point that @ChairLove brings up:
"And when the best is unobtainable for the most of us because it is too expensive, I say we need a change."
The concept was to create a mass produce-able design that was extremely material waste conscious. The final design was a coffee table that could be constructed from a single sheet of 2'x4' plywood, creating less than 5% waste. It was computer modeled using Rhino and the sheet of plywood was laser cut to create the pieces for the table.
While the final physical prototype was never fully completed, we did go through almost a dozen iterations before finalizing the design. The end result was basically a puzzle that you would be able to put together with basic hardware. Sure there was plenty of refinement that still needed to be done, but for just a semesters worth of work for a 2-credit course, it came out alright.
This is the only 'real' image that's worth sharing of the project...
Concept-
Abstraction Vs. Replication
e.g. the melody/rhythm of Wire's "Three Girl Rhumba" lifted and inserted into Elastica's wonderful "Connection"... If this had been abstracted a bit further, there would not have been all of the copyright lawsuit garbage, but it is still inarguably an exquisite execution...
Elastica - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilKcXIFi-Rc
Wire - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja2NXS3njXs
The abstracted past becomes the future
That's how art works
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Personally, I have no issue with OP making a replica table for his own personal use / enjoyment. Perhaps it may serve as a launch point into more creative endeavors.
Best wishes and keep up the effort!
P.S. I noticed that the table top does not have a beveled edge. Any plans on trying that in the future?
I give kudos on the table. ...
I give kudos on the table. I believe 'imitation is the sincerest form of flattery'. I do not see the problem with the OP imitating a design that he likes which is going to strictly be for personal use. He did not try to pass it off as anything but a copy. He won't be making any money on it and it is also part of the public domain. My best friend studied art in school and they often copied the work of other artists. She said it gave an appreciation as well as practical application of the various techniques that these artists used. I have a couple of her 'copies' from art school. Should I get burn them because she was copying the original? Ridiculous! I certainly don't pass them off as originals...as if I could afford the originals anyway.
And he argument about copying the baseball card is absurd. A baseball card is not considered art by any means. It is a picture of a baseball player on one side and his stats on the other. They might be collectible (my brother collects them) but they are not art. So comparing copying a baseball card (what would you gain unless you illegally tried to pass it off as an original), to copying an art form so that you could learn more about design/etc is ridiculous. The table is not being passed off as anything but a copy for personal use.
Well, first off---
there *have* been helpful and positive comments here.
Second, my reaction was mostly, "OK, just be sure you sign that table and date it in a permanent manner so that if and when it ends up on the secondary market, some doofus won't get hold of it and stick it on ebay as a rare prototype made in the Eames' garage by a horny old dude". Because you KNOW that will happen.
I am really surprised by all...
I am really surprised by all of the bashing on the OPs table. A lot of members on this forum suffer from terminal pious egoitis.
In a world where most Americans can't even change their own lightbulbs, you have created something functional and appealing. Keep up the good work. I think it looks great.
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