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difeliciantonio
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11/07/2014 6:31 am  

THere is a CNC But not for...
THere is a CNC But not for personal projects.
I use Rhino For cadd. I can do Alias but its a pain to 3d print from.


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blink
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11/07/2014 7:06 am  

i don't get the criticism of this
The guy is just fabricating a table for himself, he isn't selling it, there is no copyright anymore, and he isn't ripping anyone off.
The replicating a famous baseball card comment is way off base, and just negative to be negative.


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M_Dennis87
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11/07/2014 7:19 am  

I would really love to know...
I would really love to know how many critics here even went to design school or anything about studying design or creating anything in general.
Take an art class and you're going to be copying another piece of art by a famous artist or the teacher. Go to architecture school and you're going to learn about Jefferson, Van der Rowe, Hadid. Go to carpentry school you're going to copy someone's skills on how to cope crown moldings.
This is what you call the learning process.
Get off your high horses. Or better yet post something you've made yourself if you think you can do better.


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niceguy
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11/07/2014 7:24 am  

Chinese successful
difeliciantonio,
You demonstrate why the Chinese are successful and lack creativity. Congratulations.
Please print a $100.00 bill that "not everyone can afford" and try using the excuse "I don't* see how this is dishonest".
You may have done well in your "industrial and furniture design" classes, but I am positive you failed the ethics class
*you may have skipped the spelling class, it is not dont.
Your copy is well executed.


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difeliciantonio
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11/07/2014 7:42 am  

A nice guyYour...
nice guy
Your assumption makes you look like just how the word starts off, an ass. You have no facts to base your judgment off of. I would be more than happy to compare my transcripts to perhaps yours.
I wrote all these post up on my phone. What auto correct does is its own business. also my phone likeS to skip to different lineS while I am writing a post
Making a 2 million dollar baseball card and fake money serves no other purpose than to deceive others .
I like the table and i made it for my personal use. Who am I deceiving?
Maybe you just feel butthurt Because somehow my 10$ replica makes your ltr or ellipcal table real or copy devalued Since I made the same thing for pennies compared to both rep and real alike?
And I am pretty sure many of the eames designs where created as affordable entry level Furnishings for returning GIs. I don't see how a 3000$ esu shelf is considered affordable. I could see a ltr being a 60-80$ item but 200-300? Really?
I bet ikea items cost more to manufacture than this


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ChadHahn
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11/07/2014 8:23 am  

Fashion Designers...
The point of a patent expiring is so the patent holder doesn't have a monopoly on that item. As long as something isn't meant to deceive there is no harm. Especially if it's a one off for personal use.
Fashion designers scour thrift stores looking for vintage clothes to base their fashions on and people don't scream about Ralph Lauren stealing a 50 year old Christian Dior idea.
Chad


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Lunchbox
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11/07/2014 8:36 am  

All these arguments are ludicrous...
First of all, he said he built the "bite size" table because he didn't wanna fork up the cash to purchase one. So where does research and/or learning enter the equation? I'll answer that. It's as an afterthought if at all.
And furthermore, his jibe at the LTR is fantastically ironic considering he thought it worth the time to knock off. It's not about the materials or the scale. You pay for the design... the idea.
And even furthermore, all the haughty references to design and/or art school make me laugh. Forget yourselves. I delved into art education at one point and found it boring, trite and of little use. I have friends with degrees who consult me in matters for which they should need no consultation. And many of the greats in the world of art and design had little to no classical training.


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difeliciantonio
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11/07/2014 8:51 am  

Wheather your a apprentice...
Wheather your a apprentice as van der Rohe was or went to architure school as Charles eames did or simply at a internship your not blazing a new path.
There are principals and skill sets that passed down from master to student which can be seen going far into the past beyond the Renaissance.
And you lumpped alot of art and design areas into one category which is pretty vein of you as every aspect of your life has been touch by someone else whether its going to the ATM and the interaction you have with that screen or service to the clothes you wear and your toilet that flushes your shit down along with youR "all knowing" of the art and design world from the small view point of your dabbling in art education
I still had to take a simple 2d drawing with only dimensions of the table top and come out with a final item using hand controlled tools.


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Lunchbox
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11/07/2014 9:02 am  

I do know my stuff, yes...
On many fronts. But then that wasn't the point. This thread is drowning in non sequitur. I think you were referring to derivation with your last post. But then where does derivation enter into knocking off a design?


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difeliciantonio
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11/07/2014 9:12 am  

When comments like this are...
When comments like this are posted..
"references to design and/or art school make me laugh"
And if I had a choice between a 8$ IKEA end table and my 10$ table. I would choose mine.
And since I am ripping off the design what about all those craftsmen who make projects from magazines from fine woodworkings? Are they belittled as well since they followed a plan not of there own? Or does this come down to yourself and the inadequacy of your own hands and capabilities thereof
Oh hey, look. I made a assumption


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Lunchbox
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11/07/2014 9:18 am  

Well...
If somewhere in the neighborhood of Ikea or Woodworking magazine sketches are the measure of your ambition then I suspect you'll have a hard time letting yourself down. But surely you're not drawing those comparisons to a Charles Eames design...


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difeliciantonio
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11/07/2014 9:42 am  

I don't see the problem of...
I don't see the problem of IKEA. They have created many new manufacturing processes as well as pushing the envelope of designing from the packageing invards is smart
And I don't see issues with using a plan. Making prototypes and one off peices is very expensive as there are many trials and errors and reiterations


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niceguy
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11/07/2014 10:25 am  

compare this
difeliciantonio,
Compare this: "What auto correct does is its own business" versus knowing how to spell primary school words. This is "your higher education" at work. Congratulations on your sound thinking.
Your transcript got you in a shop making inexpensive copies of other peoples successful designs versus having the where with all to purchase the original.
Yes, I am beginning to see all the time and talent your transcript represents. My dad can beat up your dad. This is "your higher education" at work.
Once again, your knock off table is well executed. Feel free to buy a dictionary with the money you saved.


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sophia
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11/07/2014 10:26 am  

The irony of all this is...
The irony of all this is that the Eames were the Ikea of their day. They made derivative, modern and accesible furniture out of relatively cheap (and low quality) materials, which is why most of their furniture never had a very long lifespan when used. It was also designed with the specific purpose of being able to be mass manufactured as easily as possible.
There is nothing wrong with this of course, they packaged it with their own style and aggressive marketing scheme and made themselves a very nice living. The 670 looks cool, everything else they 'designed' was pretty forgettable.


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Eameshead
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11/07/2014 10:32 am  

sophia
Derivative? Low Quality? Made to not last very long? Forgettable?
Pure drivel.


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