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16/07/2014 9:57 pm  

That sure is
a nice stamp. Getting that result on prefinished ply is a work of art, for sure.
(Every time I type prefinished, Spel-Chek® or whatever changes it to "refinished." Geez. I hate the Mavericks "we know what you want, and you're going to love it" routine. I'm going to the Genius Bar© today . . .)
Thanks, mgee. And welcome. Rule one: ignore trolls. There's one on every board. I'm the trouble-maker at Wright Chat, for instance . . . but I'm usually a little less arrogant than this guy.
Edit: misspelled mgee


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difeliciantonio
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16/07/2014 10:58 pm  

No gold leaf. Those are...
No gold leaf. Those are crazy looking tho. I was gonna Do the house industries versions for myself.
Right SDR? Many hours were spent applying finish and polishing those tops to make then perfect 😉 wink wink.


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Eameshead
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16/07/2014 11:02 pm  

gold leaf
even on the legit LTRs, I think I'm gonna be sick.
(I know, I'm all stodgy and no fun. No rEdRuM, no gold leaf.)
The beautiful orangey patina of the aged wood edges gets completely blown out of the water by the gold leaf, in my opinion. Not to mention that Charles or Ray didn't do it. (at least on LTR's) But maybe the gold leaf wins out anyway, for some tastes. But on those examples that woody posted, we are also now talking about altering an original design. (I know you are just having fun with this woody)
I guess Mgee can now add me to the "stick in the mud" list. For me, there is an aura of authenticity that exists in an original piece, that can never be duplicated by a knockoff (or even a company approved updated version) or an "improvement". (even though I have defended the OP, I am a purist at heart)
Just my opinion of course. We all have our different standards about things.
Sometimes my standards overlap nicely, and sometimes they bump into one another and create (seeming) contradictions. Nobody cares but me, but its annoying at times. Sure I feel funny defending knock offs, but jesus...
A standard for authenticity.
A standard for common sense.
A standard for ethics
A standard for tone
blah blah blah
Edit: Glad to see you are not going gold leaf, but I'm almost afraid to see what the alternative is. (Just kidding?)


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NULL NULL
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16/07/2014 11:16 pm  

House Industries
I missed these.
We can almost certainly blame Ray for them.
Will you be making an UNOFFICIAL box as well? 🙂
http://www.houseind.com/showandtell/2011/09/15/HouseIndustriesforHermanM...


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Eameshead
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16/07/2014 11:19 pm  

yeah I've seen those
whats the back story on these woody? Can we really blame ray? Or is it one of those "in the spirit of" deals?
I kind of like em though. Reminds me of the house of cards vibe.


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mgee76
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16/07/2014 11:21 pm  

Don't misunderstand me...
... of course an original is a much more special thing than a reproduction. But a reproduction, if keeping in the craft and quality and suitable to the owner, shouldn't be shamed or outlawed or compared to murder.


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16/07/2014 11:22 pm  

Added link
Yes, they do look cool. I view them as an extension of Herman Miller Select or Limited Edition products.
Who knows what Charles & Ray would say...


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difeliciantonio
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16/07/2014 11:22 pm  

I like the boxes but no.
I like the boxes but no.


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Eameshead
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16/07/2014 11:30 pm  

mgee
no misunderstanding, I was just kidding around when I referenced you there.
In some ways I AM a stick in the mud purist. Even when originality is not pretty, I would rather see a raw and clunky original than a better made derivative. I guess that just comes from the fine artist in me.
I agree with you about an individual's rights to do a thing for the need or pleasure or fun or learning.
I agree with SDR's long post above too. (Even though I have had my go arounds about patina with him! LOL)


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Eameshead
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16/07/2014 11:45 pm  

off topic?
(but derivatives ARE the topic I guess?)
On woody's link, I like those big flour-sack towels with the giant numbers on them. Not sure what to do with them. Maybe sew a few together to make a large sun shade overhang?
I do enjoy the number "4" though. I could just get a single number 4. And just hang it up. I like it because it lacks the pretense of trying to be art.
Anyways, thanks woody.
Defeliciantonio, you gonna go with the house version now? Or make your own version?


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Lunchbox
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17/07/2014 12:15 am  

magee...
"If you can make a profit shooting people, then I say go for it."
I'm paraphrasing but those were your words. Not mine.


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difeliciantonio
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17/07/2014 12:34 am  

I do believe you are just...
I do believe you are just paraphaseing out of context.
Wasn't the next sentence, whatever makes your black soul happy?


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Lunchbox
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17/07/2014 12:35 am  

No, it wasn't...
And no, I wasn't.


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difeliciantonio
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17/07/2014 12:44 am  

"of course lunchbox
it...
"of course lunchbox
it would be a more pure act then. Based only in philosophical beliefs of your black soul. Rather than that other thing. Whatever that was. Oh yeah, your personal enjoyment."


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objectworship
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17/07/2014 4:12 am  

Price; Abstraction Vs. Replication (again)
Price has been mentioned a few times above... I don't doubt that the $10 is true when one is using scrap materials while in possession of suitable equipment/training/expertise etc. It appears the largest part of the cost of the table is in the manufacture of the top, specifically the labor and equipment to make it.
These are still fairly "cheap" tables that have a starting list price of $209. They hold their value pretty well. The selling price for "used in very good or better condition" is something like $160-180, and "vintage" examples can fetch anywhere from less than $300 to more than $1000, depending on condition, desirability, etc. etc. etc.
I've purchased over a dozen of these particular (yet various) (Herman Miller) tables in the secondhand/grayish/blackish market in recent years. They were all in the price range of $60-100. The thing isn't very expensive, the knockoff is even less so.
I sort of appreciate the idea of the self-aware, branded knockoff. However, this is also just another way of (re)packaging the same existing product while offering extremely little in terms of innovation. Obviously, there is potential here for something much better.


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