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gropius
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18/11/2020 11:40 pm  

I have way too many projects, and consider any wood furniture repairable - but not always worth the time and effort to repair. Here is good example - a dining armchair that needs more than simple glueing. If it was part of a full set it would be worth it to complete the set; but as a single, less likely. On the other hand, the sculpted arm attachment is better than many. I only want to put the time into it if it is worth it. With an ID it should become clear how much time it is worth. Can anyone identify it?

p.s. The only way I found to add more than one pic is to edit and add one pic at a time. Is this the correct way to do it?

 

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19/11/2020 1:53 pm  

@gropius

It's an Erik Buch chair, made by Oddense Maskinsnedkeri (O.D. Møbler).

Whether it's worth restoring you have to decide for yourself, if you like the design, why not.


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20/11/2020 4:31 pm  

On the subject of Erik Buch chairs, I picked up an unmarked set last week (also in need of major repairs) that has exposed brass screws connecting the back rests to the stiles.  Most model 49 chairs have countersunk screws with wood hole covers.  The DFI lists Oddense Maskinsnedkeri and Povl Dinesen as makers of these chairs.  Were there differences in construction that identify who made them?  Are the models with exposed screws earlier than the ones with hole covers?  

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20/11/2020 5:24 pm  

https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/erik-buch-povl-dinesen-chairs-176-c-f6d4a25832

https://www.pamono.eu/vintage-model-49-armchairs-by-erik-buch-for-o-d-mobler-set-of-2

Guten "Morgen" @mark737 , attached two links, one Povl Dinesen, the other O.D. Møbler, actually no difference.

 

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20/11/2020 5:39 pm  

@mvc  Thanks for the reply.  I was reading some old threads on Buch and Dinesen and found this one where @leif-ericson discussed that some of his tags (like the one on the chair in your link) say "Supplied by Povl Dinesen" , meaning that he sold them but probably did not make them.  

https://designaddict.com/community/main-forum/Teak-bench-ID-assistance-please4216/#post-52961

There was also this interesting thread where Povl Dinesen's son Palle answered questions about his father and his business.  He says his father did design and make furniture in addition to selling it.  He also had a store in Wiesbaden and traveled around to the bases in Germany selling furniture by different makers to American servicemen. 

https://designaddict.com/community/main-forum/need-help-identifying-marks-teak-furniture7780/paged/2/#post-70600


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20/11/2020 5:44 pm  

Wiesbaden, my goodness, the town is known as retirement-home for rich decadent Russians and Germans, average age at least 80! 😎 

But beautiful Neo-Classical architecture. The buildings I mean.


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20/11/2020 6:17 pm  

I went there once, I think around 1981, but don't remember much about the town.  My mother was a teacher at the American school in Nurnberg and I was on the tennis team, so we traveled to most of the bases in Germany. 


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20/11/2020 6:42 pm  

@mark737

By the way, how is the mood in your country? Have Giuliani and Trump already been picked up by the men in white coats?


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20/11/2020 6:58 pm  

@mvc  I haven't checked in the last couple of hours but it's getting close to that point.  Only the hard-core true believers are still buying the "massive fraud" claims.  Tucker Carlson and Fox have been distancing themselves this week and only the fringe media like OANN are still holding the line.  


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20/11/2020 7:26 pm  

@mark737

Well, the performance of Giuliani is described in the German media as grotesque cabaret. But you have to admit one thing to the guy, his entertainment value is not bad.

 


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20/11/2020 8:10 pm  

I believe there are differences in the framing joints and subtle geometry differences between PD and OD made Buck chairs. Even in the photos posted by mvc, the wood edges have a tighter radius and sharper appearance on the PD than the larger radiused edges on the OD. 

OD's rail-to-leg joints usually had "sine curve" finger joints (or whatever that joint is officially called), while the PD ones I've seen do not. I've not seen a disassembled PD joint to know whether those early ones were doweled or mortise-and-tenon.

mark737, could you post a closeup of the backrest supports on your chairs? That photo looks like the front angled face has been cut off with a table saw. Are all of the chairs like that?

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20/11/2020 9:16 pm  

@cdsilva @mark737

All chairs look different in details, even those from the same manufacturer.

The distances between the glue seams, the lines of the side braces etc ...

(Btw I hope it's allowed using photos from the web just to discuss technical features)

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20/11/2020 11:30 pm  

@cdsilva @mvc  Here are some more shots of my chairs.  The stiles are all the same and definitely seem to have longer ends with flatter front edges than most model 49's.  I included a shot of the underside and a back rest opened up to show the stuffing which includes what looks like cotton batting and straw.

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20/11/2020 11:34 pm  

@mark737

Looks indeed strange, very special. And the dimensions/proportions seem different too, depth of the seat for example. Or is it an optical illusion? The side brace seems to be longer. And the front brace is different.

Mark, I think you are proud owner of the first prototype ever! 😎 


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