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TinyArmada
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29/11/2011 7:25 am  

looks like
Is that a lamp or a 50's hair-dryer above that chair?
- A.S.


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Brent
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30/12/2011 5:24 am  

Fair condition
Does this really qualify as 'fair condition'? Maybe it's the photo, but they appear to be a mess.


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NULL NULL
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09/01/2012 2:02 am  

Listing states authentic
That makes it even more WTF.


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NULL NULL
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15/01/2012 9:35 pm  

?
$2000 for this Nelson clock.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/370575614542


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gene
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15/01/2012 10:50 pm  

I was watching that ebay auct...
I was watching that ebay auction too, woody, and came here to see if anyone could offer an explanation. Cause I'm selling mine if this is legit!


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NULL NULL
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15/01/2012 10:53 pm  

My guess...
A freak bidding war (or possible shill). Clearly not worth that much, especially not in that condition.


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Pegboard Modern
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18/01/2012 7:27 am  

From made in China.com
ouch


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Riki
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20/01/2012 10:12 am  

Here's one
for tinyarmada who cringes at mixing new with French provincial. I bet diFrutta owns a set of these.
http://cgi.ebay.fr/4-chaises-design-style-chapeau-Napoleon-en-bois-et-cu...


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Spanky
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20/01/2012 6:11 pm  

Yes.
And they hang under his print of a Georgia O'Keefe painting.


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NULL NULL
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22/01/2012 4:49 am  

Yeah that's salvageable
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jesgord
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22/01/2012 6:35 am  

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It is what you can not...
"
It is what you can not see.
What he has done is taken a new external frame and married it with an old back plate and electronics.
It is fake.
It also appears Modernesia is operating at a wholesale operation of fakes - having them entered into auctions around the country and is operating literally dozens of Ebay user I.D.s and has items being placed into peoples hands all over the place.
His fakes are very, very good.
Expect in 10 years to find literally hundreds of people wanting his blood - and the many others who work for him - when they take their junk to Rago or some other auction house.
No one believes an outright lie - but mix a little truth and you can blind an owl with bulls__t. He likes to marry old pieces with new pieces so you think "how could it be fake if it has..."
I suspect we are seeing him operate at the level of a workshop with several people doing nothing but faking items and pumping them out.
I would also be weary of purchasing anything from "simplymod-auctions" and also "dejavulb" on ebay. they either work for him or get their items directly from him I suspect.
If it is 60 years old and there isn't a smudge on it - there is a very good reason why. Check out the labels and you might start to understand the scope of the problem.
I can not tell you how good it is to have many totally verified pieces with Knoll Labels etc. at every stage of production in their history.
Having an original old Nelson clock helps, too - while you can fake the outside, and even use old mechanisms with new outer rim shells, you can not fake that the new out rims and wood spikes are different - only on the inside of the clock - visually from the outside, they are bang-on.
Fakes are excellent these days, but they are not perfect when you have them side-by-side to originals.
And I have to say, ebay loves this guy. I shudder to think the money he is pulling in from his operations around the US.
Provenance would be ideal to get when buying really nice items, and legit sellers seem to not have a problem providing it when asked. Try asking the two ebay user IDs for specifics on provenance...suddenly, you will notice your not getting replies - or answers that can be verified.
I get disgusted by it - and I am letting off steam because real sellers that sell REAL items that have vintage damage and age can't sell their items, and these fakes are getting top prices.
It is backwards.
The Con Men have stepped up and are giving verification a hard time.
A.S."
I don't even know where to begin......


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tchp
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22/01/2012 6:54 am  

Ironic that a post that...
Ironic that a post that speaks at such length about verification has so little...verification


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NULL NULL
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26/01/2012 5:45 am  

Only $1900
For this Eames shell.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Eames-Fiberglass-Shell-Chair-BLACK-Signe...


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glassartist
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26/01/2012 8:44 am  

I am stumped
by this one. I have had a couple hundred shells (not many compared to more experienced dealers) but it looks weird. Way too much glue in a weird color, especially for a black shell. And what is going on with the gray halos? Is it my imagination or are the mounts misaligned?


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NULL NULL
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26/01/2012 5:07 pm  

My recollection
Is the shells that are stamped as such were manufactured in Canada. Not really all that rare or especially valuable, though. And yes, the glue job looks pretty bad especially if it is original.


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