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Andersen
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08/03/2024 2:00 pm  

Hi ! Do you have any info about this designer ? Never heard about him before. Slagelse worked with some good designers and their products were quite of good quality. Any info is appreciated.

 

here is one piece attributed to Slagelse, but bears a PH label. Why would you label PH if your company is called Slagelse ?

 

https://www.pamono.eu/chest-of-drawers-ph52-by-kaj-winding-for-slagelse-mobelvaerk-1960s

 

 

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Andersen
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08/03/2024 2:23 pm  

Here is this PH label attributed to Slagelse.

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Andersen
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08/03/2024 2:24 pm  

Here are variations of labels of Slagelse

 

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Andersen
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08/03/2024 3:52 pm  

could be Poul Hundevand, but I did not find so far the same label

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09/03/2024 12:39 am  

@Andersen Kaj Winding was a cabinetmaker, factory owner and designer. In the 40s he was one of the owners of Winther & Winding, the company where Henry Schubell worked when Arnold Madsen approached him  to help out with the chair design that later became the world famous Clam. Winding later went on to design things. I think I have more on him if you want to. 

As far as the chest is concerned: If the stamp is a maker‘s mark (and I believe it is), it’s definitely not Slagelse. Slagelse was founded by the brothers Christensen, there‘s no P, H or V involved. 

Could indeed be Poul Hundevad Vamdrup. At least two of the stamps you posted are Hundevad & Co, founded by Poul‘s brother, different company. 

You know who probably knows? @cdsilva 

"People buy a chair, and they don't really care who designed it." (Arne Jacobsen)


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Andersen
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09/03/2024 8:53 am  

Thanks a lot, @Herringbone, for the nice explanation! I would be good to know, from where the attribution to Winding originates at all. Why is this piece of furniture called “PH52” on the internet ? The “V” that embraces “PH” in the logo, could explain the Vamdrup reference. Maybe a piece that was attributed once to someone, and later everyone assumed that was correct. Would also be interesting to know, how the other 51 pieces of the PH label look like… please let me know, if you have more infos. Have a nice and sunny weekend ! 


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09/03/2024 11:47 am  

@Andersen The Winding attribution comes from a person who knew that Winding designed for Slagelse and who thought that therefore all Winding pieces must have been produced by Slagelse. 

And: I can assure you that there are no 51 pieces of that maker with the numbers 1 to 51. That’s usually not how the systems worked. The numbering seems miraculous most of the time and every company had its own system of numbering models. 

"People buy a chair, and they don't really care who designed it." (Arne Jacobsen)


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cdsilva
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09/03/2024 10:39 pm  

The PH logo is definitely Poul Hundevad, which is different than Hundevad and Co.

to answer the OP’s original question “ Why would you label PH if your company is called Slagelse ?”, the answer is “because the Pamono dealer who is listing this piece is clueless.”


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Andersen
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10/03/2024 8:45 am  

Thanks for the info, cdsilva. Best wishes 


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