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jdip
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06/11/2013 6:38 am  

I remember a while back there was this long thread regarding an Ebay seller with bogus labels on his Eames chairs. What ever happened with that?
So I happen to collect lamps, more so than chairs and there is this Ebay seller who I have posted about before. This is not the first time he/she has done this and I am really not sure why it urks me so much but it does. He/she buys lamps, paints them, then pawns them off as something they are not, blatantly lying about the lamps in the descriptions. What can be done to out them? I am all for flipping items but this is just outright B.S. and the sad thing is that there are people out there that fall for it every time.
I called him/her out on one some time ago and obviously they have since blocked me from messaging them. Unfortunately there is only one space for a "weblink" on this forum so I am putting on in this message and one in the next.....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Arredoluce-For-Raymor-Lamp-Angelo-Lelli-Mid-Century-Modern-Eames-Vtg-Sarfatti-/331060072691?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d14b7d0f3


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fastfwd
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06/11/2013 6:56 am  

Fraud is a crime.
If you're the victim of online auction fraud and think that reporting it will make you feel better, you can file a complaint without leaving your house or even picking up your phone:
http://www.ic3.gov/complaint/default.aspx


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06/11/2013 7:15 am  

It is interesting how the...
It is interesting how the pattern of paint cracks on the base of the lamps in both auctions is identical.


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jdip
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06/11/2013 7:18 am  

well
I am not the "victim" so this would be left up to the unfortunate purchaser.....however they would likely never even know they have been duped. Guess I just wanted to point out yet another Ebayer with unethical behavior. Funny thing is that this seller did this not too long ago with another lamp with similar bulb housing that they purchased on Etsy. On Etsy it was all plated brass and popped up on Ebay in these same "original enamel paint" colors and sold as Arredoluce or something of that nature. Crazy thing is that someone actually purchased it and if I remember correctly it was in excess of 2k


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Krenit
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06/11/2013 7:23 am  

Um, it's upside down dumbass.
Um, it's upside down dumbass.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1953-MOMA-Good-Design-Winning-Lamp-Paul-Mayen-Ea...


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06/11/2013 9:13 am  

Unless someone is selling...
Unless someone is selling crack, kidnapped children, nazi stuff or body parts, ebay does not give a shit. Why?
Because these scammers are making alot of money for ebay.


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06/11/2013 5:23 pm  

The short view looks to...
The short view looks to punish the seller, which would be great if it were effective, but you would have to be the buyer to get any leverage there. And if you care enough to take that seller and yourself down, go for it, but another is likely to take the place.
The longer view looks to educate the buyers. So find and publish as much documentation on the lamps you care not to see forged. This very site is a great place for it. That will shrink the pool of uneducated buyers over time, and make the swindle'rs job harder. It will probably also raise the value of the lamps. And in educating the buyers, you should throw in the occasional public shaming of a swindler because fear of the great swindle is a great motivator. Build them a golden bridge and then be prepared to kick them across it.


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06/11/2013 5:51 pm  

A fool and his money . . .
A fool and his money . . .


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Robert Leach
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06/11/2013 5:53 pm  

One Look
at the pictures for that lamp and I can see it's been resprayed- there's no way on earth that's an original finish.
Yes..a fool and his money etc. indeed
The wording is pretty slippery too, if you study it closely.


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VinnyV
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06/11/2013 9:28 pm  

wow!
the graceful way the cord hangs out of the top of the lamp--what design!
edit: re, Krenit's link--I always get fooled by the way the site design implies I can reply in the middle of the thread....


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VinnyV
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06/11/2013 9:54 pm  

ok, I started to look at this guy
here's one I own:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vtg-Lightolier-Reflector-Floor-Lamp-50s-Mid-Cent...
it's a perfectly OK lamp; it's clearly a copy of designs attributed to Lightolier (the way the head attaches to the neck is way less, how you say, refined).
when the seller states "This floor lamp was designed by Gerald Thurston with this new mobility in mind." --what's "careful" about this language? It's a flat lie, unless Thurston designed the lamp.
$699? shit, even 1st Dibs sellers would call it "in the manner of" and charge $499 max.
me, I paid $40 at a flea in Vegas ten years ago. never needed rewiring yet. no complaints!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vtg-Lightolier-Reflector-Floor-Lamp-50s-Mid-Cent...


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jdip
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07/11/2013 1:52 am  

Before
scroll to the bottom of the page on the link to see pictures of the lamp
http://www.etsy.com/listing/130368147/beautiful-mid-century-three-globe-...


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NULL NULL
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07/11/2013 1:28 pm  

$6700 Clay Michie lamp
Apaparently its "One of the Most Coveted Mid Century Lamps in the World"
I've got one anyone here can have for oohh lets see now, $5k? Must be a bargain surely?


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