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giulio
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02/04/2013 9:26 pm  

Hi everybody.
I bought at an antiques fair in Parma (Italy) this coffee table. Hope You can see the picture: it's France and Sons coffee table from P. Hvidt.
I bought it just because I liked it, not knowing anything about it, and the price of 500 euro seemed to me ok: it's in very good conditions.
Starting from the metal stamp FF, I learnt about it, and I found much more pictures of the same table with a rattan shelf underneath, that mine doesn't have.
Can ony one confirm me that both versions (with / without rattan shelf) are genuine?
In the case they both are, is 500 Euro right?
Thanks!
Giulio
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onno
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02/04/2013 9:42 pm  

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Yes, both versions are genuine.
500 Euro is a bit too much, but still acceptable.


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giulio
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02/04/2013 10:05 pm  

Thanks you, Onno
Looks like I chose the right forum.


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tchp
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02/04/2013 11:10 pm  

If the underside of your...
If the underside of your table shows a small screw hole next to each of the legs, this would indicate that it at one time had the brass support arms for the lower shelf, which may have been removed because the rattan was worn out and broken, and the person did not feel like getting it fixed.
Still an attractive table even without a lower shelf.


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Robert Leach
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02/04/2013 11:22 pm  

The brackets
The brackets for the under-tier of mine are rings that are held by the screw in legs, so no screws present.


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tchp
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03/04/2013 12:28 am  

Could be the ones I have...
Could be the ones I have seen had the screws added later, to keep the rings from rotating out of position once they were in place, but I assumed they were done by the factory. I have seen two this way - a round table I have that is missing the lower shelf, and one that I helped someone disassemble for transport.


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Robert Leach
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03/04/2013 1:27 am  

Interesting!
I'll do pics when I have some time, but don't doubt these lovely tables went through many phases
Huge fan of Hvdit and France & Sons here


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tchp
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03/04/2013 1:37 am  

The only image I found online...
The only image I found online of the bracket does not show a small screw through the ring, so it could be that I am remembering it wrong, or confusing the screw part with the little brass ball at the end of the rod, which screws into the lower shelf.
Were these tables ever marketed without the lower shelf?


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HowardMoon
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03/04/2013 1:42 am  

More a nipple than a screw, if you will excuse the expression.
All the tables I have seen had a raised nubbin on the underside of the brass ring which positioned into an indentation on the underside of the table.


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tchp
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03/04/2013 1:46 am  

Thanks. That sounds like it...
Thanks. That sounds like it must be the hole that I remember.


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Robert Leach
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03/04/2013 1:56 am  

That's
That's the same as my rectangular table.
My corner and side table have two sets of graduated legs that the under-tiers fit between.


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