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24/08/2008 4:15 am  

I found a eames molded plywood coffe table with the metal legs today i gave 250.00 for it
The black aniline paint has completely flaked off
My daughter and i tried to strip the paint off and got down to the the brown plywood with lots of black paint still in the wood,
i was gonna be Mr. re finisher, but i think i will take it to a pro and let him rub the black dye on and put a nice shiny poly coat on it,
anyone have any remarks about this table, i think it will be nice when it is refinished
This one was from 1946. i could not live with it the way it looked, as i would not want to put next to all my prized pieces, with out a fresh look.


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24/08/2008 4:30 am  

Why not
Leave it natural?


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claus (DE)
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24/08/2008 4:32 am  

Congrats, great table, and th...
Congrats, great table, and the price is still OK!
I personally hate worn-out LCMs, they just need a nice black finish. The same goes for tables as well I think. Especially as a combination with LCMs they're stunning. We had groups of 2 chairs and a table at the university library and I loved them as a great place to sit and read magazines for hours, several inches of knowledge piled up to hide the illegal coffee on the table...
When refinishing make shure the grain stays vissible. I used a synthetic resin scumble paint (? automatic translation) and clear coat on similar stuff with great results.


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24/08/2008 8:25 am  

Congrats on your find! Be...
Congrats on your find! Be great if you could get a photo up here before you do anything more to it.


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barrympls
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24/08/2008 9:18 am  

I agree....it's a beautiful table
and I'd leave the wood natural. If you can get it 100% paint free, then all you'll ever have to do with it is to polish it with Howard Feed & Wax, which is a marvelous natural product.
I don't know why Herman Miller doesn't continue to make the metal leg version available these days.


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24/08/2008 9:41 am  

thanks all for your great ...
thanks all for your great advise
I wish i could get a pic but for some reason i can not get photobucket to work with my new computer vista i guess
i have tried every thing as i want to post the long awaited house that is in the 5th month of a total exterior renovation with crab orchard stone, long ordeal but looking un real just like Frank Lloyd Wright would have designed the stonework himself, it is right from his book so i get to credit him.
on the table... after totally stripping it this after noon i still had a lot of black in it i could not get it to raw blond wood, i rubbed black alanine dye in it tonight with a rag and it looks ok . kinda dull but you can see all the great grain like woodys picture. does any one thing i should put lacker on it to make it shine or keep the 50s dull look.


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24/08/2008 7:42 pm  

I would seal it.
I think aniline dye wants to be sealed.
But not sure what you used. If it is a dull matt finish it may not have a
binder and will turn to a powder actually just sitting on the top layers.
Even with a binder, i think the slightest spill will flaw the perfect black finish?
Taken from the discussion linked below...
" you may want to try lightly brushing on a couple of "wash coats" of thinned shellac over your dye before going to the finish coat. The shellac will help seal the surface over the dye and reduce the amount of color the finish coat takes off. When you have dried dye powder sitting on the surface, any brushed-on wet coat, regardless of its solvent base, is going to pick up some of the dye. The shellac will do this as well..."
Don't get aniline on your hands. It is so rich a pigment and easily absorbed in skin.
(i'm sure you know that but just in case anyone else wants to try aniline dye. I use
Trans-tint mentioned in the link. Still very tricky)
I've always liked your version of the table best. And black stain. You will find that guests
will often set down their cocktail on the slope edge. I think that may happen because it
visually looks and 'is' a big tray. A big coaster or two in a contrasting color helps
prevent that.
Hope you get your camera/computer compatibility solved. Love to see the house.
http://www.woodweb.com/knowledge_base/Analyzing_aniline_dye_problems.html


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LRF
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24/08/2008 9:57 pm  

thanks Rockland for your...
thanks Rockland for your most helpful post
I did notice the power that you talked about
I will see about shellac today at home depot
i wonder if they make a spray on shellac in cans.
it would be like the furniture re finishers use with airless guns, to get a smooth even finish.


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rockland
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24/08/2008 10:25 pm  

shellac
does come in a spray can. Easy application and will not 'lift' the stain.
Read the label. It may recommend a few thin coats. And a specific dry time
between coats. It dries fast so that prevents picking up airborn dust and such.


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24/08/2008 10:47 pm  

MOst
Most high-end woodworking stores - Woodcraft, Rocklers, etc. sell aniline dye. You just need to have them explain how to use it and ask them what the best sealer is for it.
If I ever get around to it I've still got that old DCW in the closet that needs a full overhaul - including restaining once I get the paint off.


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LRF
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25/08/2008 12:48 am  

it worked and so far ...
it worked and so far looks great,
i use the brown dye yesterday and let it sit over night,
I went to Lowes and the paint man recommended a resin but i have no patience for that since you need to build it up, so we found min wax fast drying polyurethane in clear gloss.
He said that should do the trick, as it is drying as we speak ,
I buy these little handles for 4 bucks they act like airless, they fit on the cans and make a handle , and they seem to work on the cans,
I just got photo bucket working


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Tulipman
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25/08/2008 6:00 am  

Just stunning!
That grain is just fabulous!!-Great job!


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25/08/2008 7:16 am  

Wow
Very nice!


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