and the rest of the story
fastfwd,
I stand corrected for the moment. You are correct that filing is over.
I noticed that you made no comment of the success of Louis Vuitton vs. eBay.
This is not in the papers (very little): what is your knowledge of Gucci vs. Guess (this relates in terms of "knock offs")? Two cases are being fought at once, in the US and in Italy.
Just for your information
Just for your information. I contacted E-bay, contacted the winner of the LCW (which you can find under the reply of Josh)and also contacted winners of other chairs. I all pointed them in the direction of this thread.
E-bay did nothing. The winner of the LCW thanked me for the information and that he received a refund from Modernesia and from the others I heard nothing.......
Pegboard thank you for you contribution and Josh please keep your excellent pictures in the thread.
nothing wrong with the lamps
I personally do not like the one with the cones (looks like Laurel possibly)but the one with the boomerang base is cool.
I didnt look at all the pics he has of it but I am pretty sure they usually came with a diffuser that clips onto the bulb. Usually they are missing though.
Modernesia dodging my question
our favorite crook on ebay is at it again!
Watch his current listings. Click on link down below.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/EVANS-PLYWOOD-CHARLES-EAMES-HERMAN-MILLER-WALNUT...
I asked him:
Dear modernesia,
Is the rare early Evans/Herman Miller postage stamp original?
He answered:
All of these listed chairs are in their complete original state with the exception of the Walnut DCW which looks to have been "furniture polished" a bit over its lifetime. Thanks for looking!
I replied:
Dear modernesia,
You didn't answer my question. "is the label on this chair the 'Evans postal stamp' original?
UPDATE:
I believe I did :"complete original state"
Thanks,
Fred
- modernesia
NOTE: Am I missing something or did his answer "not" answer my questions if the label original? shouldn't the answer be
"yes, the labels are original"?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/EVANS-PLYWOOD-CHARLES-EAMES-HERMAN-MILLER-WALNUT...
So....
Malihini changed his user ID to industrialarts on August 29, 2011. He is registered in California and has been on Ebay since 1998.
Mylastdime has changed his ID a bunch of times, as has Modernisia. Both of them are also registered in CA---which doesn't necessarily mean anything, of course.
Is anyone saving screencaps of the stuff these guys are selling and buying? Is anyone invested enough in this to do that? (I'm not so much, but I am curious to see how it all plays out.)
Evans Production?
In regards to the LCW that Modernisia currently has for sale:
I may be wrong, but I?ve never seen an Evans production chair where the spine sticks out past the front legs. I only ever see that detail on Herman Miller chairs with the 5-2-4 screw pattern (1950-57). Also, the quality of the walnut veneer, in my experience, is more consistent with a later Herman Miller production.
Is there a small veneer chip beside the front centre screw ? the screw that would have been added to make this a 5-2-5 pattern?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/EVANS-PLYWOOD-CHARLES-EAMES-HERMAN-MILLER-WALNUT...
what a tool
Yes Josh, it looks like he's at it again. Forget the lamps and cones... this chair is another fantasy piece created to mislead and deceive.
Ha, considering his recent feedback and the discussion on these boards it seems like he's upped his game on this one. His arrogance doesn't surprise me. "Sold as found" and not addressing specific authenticity questions will continue to cover him for the time being.
The label on the current LCW listing looks completely fake unlike the paper label on the DCW he auctioned a week or two ago. Although most of the Evans/HM paper labels on his chairs are obviously bogus. In my experience the paper labels are somewhat hard to come across although not rare. He knows that it will add at least a few hundred dollars to the final price and it's easy to create more with a Epson printer.
Based on your comments I agree with you that the center screw looks like it was added to a later production LCW. The wood chip next to the center screw is subtle, but telling.
Eventually one of the dealers who marks these up in Europe will be called out on some of these chairs. There are some knowledgable collectors over there.
john
speaking of Modernesia....
Below was my email conversation Modernesia.
The stubborn SOB still never answered my question.
Subject: My recent ebay winning of the Red Eames LCM
Hello again (name removed),
This is (name removed), the guy who won the bidding to your recent ebay listing of the Red Eames LCM with the postal stamp label. Because of the recent massive blogging about you on Design Addict, i've been concerned about the authenticity of the label of my LCM I bought from you. Will you please verify for me whether the label is original and vintage to the chair as it was made from the Evans Production factory, or if it is indeed that the label is a reproduction and is not original? Perhaps you can clarify this once and for all for me to clear the air from the rumors about you on the website's blogging. Thanks.
Regards,
(name removed)
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His reply:
Hello (name removed), I think i've already exhausted the explanations on this topic but as I said before the notion that I am somehow reproducing chairs, parts, decals, stickers and labels is purely ridiculous and frankly would be close to impossible..I have no interest or patience to engage in that sort of business. I am just fortunate to have come across a wealth of these fine pieces years ago and have been even more blessed to have a steady stream of loyal ebay customers who are willing to spend generously for those legitimately valuable pieces. The majority of my winning bidders are return buyers and my most frequent winners are legitimate antique/modern dealers, I think that speaks much louder to the integrity of what I sell than some anonymous bloggers.
I have only had one bad ebay selling experience ever which was just recently by one of those likely bloggers/eames collectors who bought one of my chairs with his only intention to create trouble for me and attempt to slander my ebay reputation. His behavior was completely outrageous and needless to say ebay intervened and took action against HIM by putting limits/restrictions on his selling and buying abilities. I have no tolerance for rude and malicious buyers like that and have blocked many of them from being able to bid on any future auctions, hence I have probably ticked off a few bad attitudes?
to be cont....
part 2 Speaking of Modernesia
continued......
This same type of behavior has happened to a few other ebay "Modern" sellers that I know so unfortunately there just seems to be some bad and pathetic people out there. I really can't defend myself against a handfull of jealous haters who seem to be hell bent on criticizing me and other successful ebay sellers, and quite honestly I don't feel that I need to. As far as I know not one of those bloggers sells on ebay regularly or have antique businesses, yet they seem to be the voice of expertise on everything Modern when it comes to other ebay sellers items...so what makes their never ending rank opinions even merit?
Thats all I can say on the matter, really!
Fred
P.S. - I don't appreciate the false accusations in the feedback, I just trust that somebody else put those words into your head and that you will know better?
you can fool some people sometimes but you can't fool all the people all the time
...I love the saying and is particular pertinent to Modernesia.
If you are reading this now You've been caught and it'll get a lot worse from here and if I were you and I've been there (yes I entered the world of Art Fraud many years ago) I'd close your account down unless you not afraid of Prison.
Don't think for one moment that it won't come to this cause it will.
For me, fortunately, I don't live in the USA so my sentence was rather lenient.
This board is a wealth of knowledge, passion & love for MCM and sooner or later your ignorance or pseudo ignorance is going to piss off to many people here and they may well decide to collectively do something about it.
You're not that good Modernesia, if you were you wouldn't disregard people who know more than you...you would be learning instead.
"the notion that I am...
"the notion that I am somehow reproducing chairs, parts, decals, stickers and labels is purely ridiculous and frankly would be close to impossible"
But Fred/Modernesia! There are photos of the exact chair you bought, showing unique grain patterns, with NO label---and of your listing for the exact chair, exact same unique grain patterns, WITH a label.
Please explain that.
p.s. This isn't a blog, it's a message board. The people here aren't blogging about this. It's just a public discussion. Oh, and one doesn't have to be an eBay seller or antique dealer to be knowledgeable about Eames. Sheesh.
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