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tktoo
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15/09/2011 6:32 pm  

I agree with w-h-c.
Word is out for those interested in doing their homework. So some eBay buyers got burned. These things have a way of sorting themselves out and the concerns expressed here are part of that process. Modernesia's game, no matter how sophisticated, will catch up with him in due time.


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william-holden-...
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15/09/2011 7:08 pm  

Along with honest, accurate complaints against sellers,
I have no doubt that Ebay receives a LOT of bogus, frivolous complaints (from rival sellers). I've sold very little on Ebay over the years, yet I've had auctions removed for the silliest of reasons (My name is WHC, and... yes... I'm a keyword spammer.)
That's the beauty of any virtually-anonymous, "self-policing" community-- where rules can be abused, they'll be abused.


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barrympls
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15/09/2011 7:49 pm  

Tiny
I illustrated some of my eBay purchases to show that I bid on and won some fairly sophisticated items that could've been screwed with and passed off as original, or misrepresented in some manner.
Yes, I see suspect listings and attempts at dishonesty all the time, but I just pass those by and center in on those listings that I find interesting and that I think are legit.
For example, I remember that when buying my Grasshopper Chair, I was unaware that Modernica had their own knockoff for sale. The listing, as best I could remember, clearly showed age to the wood legs and it had a really unattractive white nude silk fabric with vertical piping, so I knew it had been recovered.
What the seller probably didn't know was that when the chair had been recovered, a bad repair was made to the frame and it creaked, weirdly. Since I knew it was going to reupholstered, my upholsterer was able to fix the frame repair, so I got just what I want for a fraction of what I would've had to pay for a chair and ottoman from 1st Dibs, Wright or some other retail dealer!
So, I mentioned some of the stuff I've bought with confidence to show that having plenty of knowledge can be of great help. (I have mentioned in the past that to avoid confusion, I bought a number of reference books first to help with the education.)


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Robert Leach
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15/09/2011 9:05 pm  

So
Barry, you're saying your chair had undisclosed damage?


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Tom Ado
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15/09/2011 9:20 pm  

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Robert Leach
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15/09/2011 9:29 pm  

He didn't steal
he got it for a steal.
Mind you, your $60 offer would have been a steal too, if the seller had gone for it 🙂


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barrympls
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16/09/2011 4:09 am  

Robert
I believe the seller said that it creaked a bit, but remember, I only paid about $325.00 for the chair and ottoman....a fraction of what it would've cost from any other source.


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Lunchbox
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16/09/2011 4:24 am  

?
Is this really now yet another thread about Barry's Grasshopper chair?


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fastfwd
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16/09/2011 5:22 am  

1008
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Robert Leach
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16/09/2011 5:50 am  

I was making a point that somehow got lost.
Peter Hvidt & orla mølgaard-nielsen
*breathes out.


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alexandersforum
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16/09/2011 6:12 am  

Please stop trolling this...
Please stop trolling this interesting thread. If you want to brag about your living room set up or wine about "the one that got away", do it in the appropriate thread.


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NULL NULL
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16/09/2011 6:37 am  

barrympls:
Non sequitur extraordinaire.


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niceguy
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16/09/2011 6:59 am  

fastfwd is part correct
fastfwd,
While you are 100% correct regarding the status of the on going Tiffany suit (they have not given up), it is much better to sue eBay in Europe were Louis Vuitton did win in a major case in France. They seem to much tougher regarding "knock offs" on the continent.
Any individual (or group) would need "deep pockets" to tackle eBay. It is not an easy task. not impossible, but not a breeze.


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fastfwd
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16/09/2011 7:18 am  

Tiffany v. eBay is over.
There's no "ongoing" or "not given up"; the Supreme Court denied Tiffany's writ of certiorari last year. No further appeal is possible.
1013.
http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/10-300.htm


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barrympls
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16/09/2011 8:53 am  

Non sequitur extraordinaire?
Whatever the heck you mean by that. Thanks, Woody for sitting back in your easy chair and making this sweeping judgement.
This is why it's such a pain to make a contribution. Some smartass is bound to make a useless comment.


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