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martymanny
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20/11/2005 6:54 pm  

Hi everybody!
This is the first time I'm writing here..
Before going on writing I have to say sorry for my doubtful english (I'm a foreigner) 🙂

Well.. Why am I writing here and now?
Firstly because I like design (I am actually attending the Industrial Design faculty in my city)..
Secondly but not less important.. I need some help for a little excercise..! Our professor (contemporary art history) asked us to discover which art movement inspired some pieces of design..
I have some ideas and some pieces are evident but I have to talk and talk about this relationship..
and I have no time these days!!!

Well, my first object is "La Chaise" chair by Charles & Ray Eames -vitra-..
of course, it (and the internet :D) instantly tells me "Gaston Lachaise - floating figure"..
what else can I say about the movement and.. maybe it could be inspired by another one?

The second is the lamp made by Hector Serrano, "Clothes Hanger Lamp" -droog design-..
I would say "surrealism" or "ready made".. what would you say? It reminds me of Magritte maybe.. have you got other suggestions?

The last object is "Giso 404" piano lamp by Jacobus Johannes Pieter Oud.. well its shape "says" bauhaus.. but.. basically..

my problem is spacing in words (and art) to describe this relationship, since my time is very lean..!!

I thank you all, hoping you will reply to me soon! (consignation: next tuesday!!)


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21/11/2005 1:16 am  

difference
you will need to make a difference between art that influenced design just by its form (eg lachaise eames, toothbrush starck; Brancusi 'vogel', ...) and art that meets design in a more profound way; see 'de stijl' (and its architecture, furniture design, paintings, ...; mondriaan meets rietveld)


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azurechicken (USA)
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21/11/2005 7:11 am  

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Barbara Hepworth,Hans/Jean ARP,Noguchi etc. Biomorphic forms in general more likely "inspired" the chaise....Not Gastons work, later it was a brain "click" that his figure would "fit"..... I seem to recall someething along this line was done as a collage in Horizons to illustrate an article by George Nelson.VITAL FORMS is a book you need to look at...


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koen
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21/11/2005 7:30 am  

gerrit raised an interesting subject
on the difference between design directly influenced by art on one hand and design as a coherent component together with art in a larger cultural mouvement. Of the first one there are numerous exemples.Wim Gilles has mentioned several times that his biggest inspiration for his cast iron coal stove was Henri Moore. The second seems difficult to find outside the modern mouvement and some of the mouvements that introduced the modern period like the Art Nouveau period in which you find art both in painting and sculpture works that are very close to the organic designs of the early years of the 20th century.
By the way, we are all foreigners somewhere....


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SDR
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21/11/2005 8:24 am  

The "La Chaise"
chair (?) has always put me in mind of Frederick Kiesler's "Endless House," with its biomorphic forms raised above the ground plane. . .
I could only find one poor picture of this famous unbuilt design on the web (it existed as a plaster model; there seem to have been plans to built a replica in the MoMA garden, c 1960).
http://www.classic.archined.nl/news/9611/kiesler_eng.html


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koen
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21/11/2005 9:47 pm  

I do not want to do your research but...
another interesting variation on this theme are the objects made according to Robert Indiana's famous "love" poster and subsequent sculpture ("Lo" on top of "ve" to form an almost square image) I remeber having seen it as candles, book-ends etc.


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martymanny
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22/11/2005 11:31 pm  

thanks
thank you all for replying me so quickly!
I am always waiting for other suggestions (even the smallest!) all precious to me!
maybe some information about the other two objects... (for "la chaise" is enough, thank you azurechicken and SDR!)
thank you sooo much!
@ gerrit.be and koen: nice subject guys, really thank you but this wasn't the aim of my research!
I am looking the art source specifically for my 3 objects.. 🙂


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martymanny
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22/11/2005 11:47 pm  

looking in this forum
@azurechicken: I found this about "La Chaise" chair..
I quote it:
15-May-05
Where the La Chaise comes from... Great story, great chair.
In 1947 the "Organic Design in Home Furnishings" competition at the Museum of Modern Art, New York was given this submission from Chucky and Ray-Ray Eames after some collaboration with none other than Eero "Crazy Legs" Saarinen. The rather amusing bit is that the fellas were looking to celebrate a particular sculpture by a fella whose name was Gaston Lachaise by sheer coincidence. The sculpture, "Floating Figure" is a nude of woman sitting up with a straight back with her feet kicked up over exaggerated, heavy hips. Raised to hover in the middle of a pond, Lachaise's reclining female nude figure appears floating on the water, although she is actually supported beneath by two thin poles. The head and torso are erect, with the arms held outstretched, hands open, as in the encompassing prayer position, known as the Orrans position. Below the waist, the legs are crossed and placed to one side, like a mermaid's tail. This pose, whilst looking awkward and unnatural, nevertheless manages to convey a sense of joy and feminine fecundity. Lachaise's muse for this piece eventually became his wife.
What is so spectacular about seeing the original sculpture and then comparing it to the chair by the Eames' is the somewhat erotic nature of the form it is borne of, and the playful execution to their hommage right down to the thin poles used to hold their own floating figure above its base. And of course the amusing play on words.
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23/11/2005 1:37 am  

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the coincidence was in the name of the sculptor, 'la chaise' is french for 'the chair' (this is what i can tell from that story). btw in a book 'vitra.eames' (isbn 3-9804070-7-1, 1996) is mentioned; '...the piece takes its punning title from the french sculptor Lachaise, whose floating figure was an indirect inspiration...'


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23/11/2005 1:59 am  

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about Jacobus Johannes Pieter Oud, he and theo van doesburg formed 'de stijl' which was a dutch avant-garde mouvement (that included architecture, design AND art), and there were similarities with bauhaus (germany) and constructivism (in russia)and futurists (italy), as for art mondriaan is whose comes first in mind but also Klee.


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dcwilson
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23/11/2005 7:14 pm  

elvis and mm inspired warhol who inspired pop art...
warhol recognized elvis and mm were mass produced, industrial images echoing in the media chamber. he then reconceptualized them as silk screen to create an art based on these industrially derived images. did the same with campbell's soup cans. i imagine he wasn't alone in doing this, though i can't say whom he copied or cross pollinated with. in any case, the colors and color relationships he chose for his art massively influenced a lot of coloration first in art, then design/architecture, and then in mass produced products. in short, he proved his thesis: mass media in an industrial society was an echo chamber. not sure if this is exact enough for you, but its the best i can come up with off the top of my head.


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