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dcwilson
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25/01/2008 11:07 pm  

I went to Sears and looked at gas ranges. DEEEEEEEpressing. And they even carry Bosch's stuff.

Why does every free standing range (FSR) have to look like a box with a flap on the back?

Why does every FSR have to have a worthless storage drawer beneath the oven door?

Why do those few that don't have a worthless drawer underneath, substitute a goofy pizza oven in its place, or a goofy small oven on the side, thus destroying any chance one has of having an oven large enough to put a truly huge paella pan with a long handle inside it?

To their credit, designers have figured out recently, after, what is it, a century, that the grates ought to span the entire top of the range, so pots and pans and skillets can be slid about the way the god of cooking always intended cooks should.

So why does every oven have to look either like a phoney restaurant rig, or else Lucy Ricardo's FSR with a rectilinear facelift?

Can't we have a pedestal mounted FSR? Something with some space under it, maybe even around it. Can some humane designer please free from the tyranny of the snug fit, even flush fit, heavy modern kitchen that looks like the entire thing is carved out of a combination of basalt and granite?

Help me, help me, help me, I think I'm going insane!!!

P.S.: Do the earth a huge favor and stop buying electric ranges. Gas exists in massive quantities on every continent. It is clean to handle. Clean to burn. And it is just stupidly inefficient to burn gas, to generate electricity, that then must be spent across electrical grids to heat inefficient electric range elements that take a long time to heat up and a long time to cool down. Gas is just so much better to cook with it is not even close. And if we cooked better food, we' eat at home more often, and we'd all be healthier and we'd all burn a lot less gasoline and diesel going to and from fast food restaurants, and expensive trendy restaurants that substitute presentation for good cooking.

End of rant. 🙂


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25/01/2008 11:35 pm  

You could spend
a fortune on a beautifully designed 1960's General Electric FLAIR stove. It's very cool 1960's with a pull out burner-top, although it's problematic and it's hard to get parts for.


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25/01/2008 11:40 pm  

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25/01/2008 11:41 pm  

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HPau
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26/01/2008 12:34 am  

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I looked online without much luck for you DC.
some Agas are ok, but they are pretty boxy and you don't like that, I see occasionally these free standing cast iron burners that are used for camping, you could sit those straight onto a bench top and they'd give you a bit of extra height, a good kitchen usually has quite high benchtops to my thinking, about belly button height is much more convenient.
I hate the contemporary fitted kitchen too, overpriced piles of chipboard rubbish. Most people would be better off (and would save a lot) getting a cabinet maker to make them some free standing cupboards on wheels.


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bustelo
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26/01/2008 12:35 am  

All is Flair in love of food
I love the Flair oven.
One recently became available on my local Craigslist. Unfortunately I opted for gas a couple of years ago and went with a honkin?, SUV, restaurant style stainless in your face monolith.
It is a range that I truely enjoy using daily, and that my wife adores when baking. But, ooh the mid century aesthetic of the kitchen, now that is another matter. When it arrived I left it in the living room for over a week. I had a difficult and emotional time removing and altering the original kitchen, despite the inefficiencies of age and inherit in the original design. If only the Flair option had presented itself in a more timely manner.


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HPau
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26/01/2008 12:40 am  

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or you could get a really old one, like these.
http://www.barnstablestove.com/html/kitchenranges.htm


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dcwilson
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26/01/2008 1:20 am  

Phillipe Starcke, update this in a gas burner!!
Heath, I'm talking about the red enamelled job! Pretty cool. Thanks. This has some inverted massing that could be reexpressed in a modernist form language that hits the spot.


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dcwilson
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26/01/2008 1:26 am  

barry...
that is an exceedingly interesting looking cook-o-plex, that exhibits a bit of inverted massing, but again it hugs the floor and surrounding cabinetry AND it is one of the dread electrics. The sliding range top is kind of a nice trick for small kitchens, but the size of this baby would make a lot of kitchens small wouldn't it. And I do like the way it gets its structure out and reveals its multi ovens in your face.


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26/01/2008 1:27 am  

We had the Flair, dc, and...
We had the Flair, dc, and ended up almost giving it away a couple years ago. I'd saved it from a friend's remodel, and it was absolutely beautiful. I loved, among other things, the upper ovens with their top lifting doors, and considered putting it in our kitchen for quite some time - it was the largest model, too wide for a standard install so we would have had to move/cut countertops and cabinets to use it. So we decided to get rid of it.
Not even modernist friends who had the space would take it though, opting themselves for new and/or gas. It went to a great young couple with a big Arts & Crafts home, big A & C kitchen, should have looked totally out of place but it didn't, which is usually the case with regard to good design. And when I run into these folks, from time to time, (out grocery shopping just last week) they still thank me profusely, which reminds me what's important, and that money's not everything.
As far as new goes, there is I think quite a lot out there, but it comes with a pretty hefty price tag, bring your biggest wallet and all that. Like I say, though, money's not everything.


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dcwilson
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26/01/2008 1:30 am  

PS...
one of the problems with overhead ovens is getting scalded from boiling pots on the range top as you reach over them to use the ovens.


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26/01/2008 1:34 am  

I think it may have been...
I think it may have been worth the risk.


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HPau
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26/01/2008 4:23 am  

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I wonder if you could get an antique one converted to gas?
You'd need a very experienced gas fitter and a seal made up. but I think it would be pretty cool.


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barrympls
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26/01/2008 7:14 am  

I doubt that
a Flair range can be converted to gas...mainly because the primary feature is the pull out burner drawer.
It IS a beautiful stove, nonetheless.


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26/01/2008 8:06 am  

no no I mean antique wood...
no no I mean antique wood stove, see the red one above.
My parents neighbour still cooks with a wood stove in winter and a friend uses one of the gas cast iron 1940's stoves, they're quite good really.


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