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LRF
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27/08/2007 11:33 pm  

One of the fellows ran over a Eames Bucket shell that we were redoing.
Since we have so many shells it was no big deal, but one of the ex automotive painters that came to work at the shop said he would like to see if he could fix it.
Over the weekend he completely re fiberglassed it , re sanded it (yes i made him wear a mask ) and has primed it to be smooth as glass , He is going to paint it black and then use a shiny poly urathenane on it.
I think we are on to something!! I know i said about a month a go about a customer that came by with a shiny shell he had gotten from California and it was a Candy apple red and looked wonderful. Well I am convinced ours will look just as good or better.
I asked Scott the shop Forman how much time we had in this so we could come up with a price to charge our cutomers since now we have this down. We are thinking since it takes around 1.5 hours that it would be around $85.00 to 100.00 for the new look .
This sure beats the old filthy looking shells that we have been trying to scrum with paint thinner .
and remember only the very early Eames shells had the nice grass fiberglass in them, those i would not touch, cause i love the way they look, but the ones made in the 60's and 70's when they were getting away from the grass in the fiberglass will work just perfect as they are a dull looking white/cream
to begin with .


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27/08/2007 11:51 pm  

another interesting tid bit...
another interesting tid bit .
I had a customer send me four aluminum group chairs from 1958 with the star bases,
We are completely making him new seat covers, for some reason he wanted his bases to shine, and i mean high polish I checked around and found a guy that is high polisheing these chairs for 125.00
I thought that was high and i just passed the price on to the cutomer with no mark up at all.
I went buy is shop on Friday and he was telling me that these were so much
more work than he though they had to be all hand sanded, as the 50 year old patina was tough as nails at trying to remove, So any one who says it is a piece of cake i would love to visit with them cause this guy , and I know as i have been bugging him for a week... he said he will earn his money on this job,
He also told me he was going to spray a clear coat on the stands as they will not tarnish, that is what they do on the task aluminum group chairs arms. Herman Miller G-d Love them !!!! but they did not make one thing easy about one chair that Charles Eames designed , I have no idea what they were thinking. The Eames Shells are difficult to redo, The task chairs and alumium group are just murder as to take them apart you have to have a assocites degree from M.I.T. cause
they are engineered to such presion
Nothing easy about the the 670 lounge chair, with that plastic pad that hasto be resewn, but the most amazing thing about Herman Miller they are by far one of the nicest
companies to talk to they have no idea on how to help you as they don't want to be in the repair business or upholstery business only sales.


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LRF
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27/08/2007 11:52 pm  

that is 125.00 per chair.
that is 125.00 per chair.


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Robert Leach
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28/08/2007 12:14 am  

It Constantly Astounds Me ................
It constantly astounds me that you think it is ok to hawk your business on this forum, yet come down like a ton of bricks on anyone else that dares to do so!
http://www.designaddict.com/design_addict/forums/index.cfm/fuseaction/th...


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sharplinesoldtimes
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28/08/2007 12:30 am  

Ouch!
Touché 🙂


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essai
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28/08/2007 1:15 am  

Hi Lloyd,
Robert and M_andersen are right, you are now using the forum to advertise your company. We really appreciate a lot your contribution to the forum and your enthusiasm to communicate your experience with all of us. But if you want to advertise your company, please contact us, there is another place to do it on DA, you can ask for our rates.
Thank you very much for your understanding.


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LRF
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28/08/2007 1:38 am  

patrick and alix
It may seem that way but i have never benefited one dime from your forum .
I have tried to be helpful and tell people about innovative ideas that they can do with there chairs. I won't waste my time


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sharplinesoldtimes
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28/08/2007 4:33 am  

Hmmm ... naaah, I'm not...
Hmmm ... naaah, I'm not buying that explanation, LRF.


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LRF
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28/08/2007 4:42 am  

M_Andersen
I have no idea what your problem is.. I will say it again i have never benefited from design addict forum, in any way. I have never had one customer from this forum they would have referenced that is were they found our company name,


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alexandersforum
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28/08/2007 12:03 pm  

LRF
I know about your business from reading the designaddict forums and I'm sure most of the people on this forum are well aware of what you are doing. That must be worth something, right?
Maybe none of your customers have refered to DA as how they got to know about your business, but at the same time you get customers sending you Eames armshells from Africa? Did you advertise in an African Modernism magazine or how did you think they heard about your company? I'm just guessing... -DA?
Also, you complain about other people looking for trouble. At the same you are the one, who often comes across as both one of the most enthusiastic (good thing), but also aggressive people here.
Still, I must say think it is wrong of other members to complain about LRF's writing skills, since he has already told us that he's had this problem (and this is a problem called dyslexia not LRF being stupid...) since he was young...


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essai
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28/08/2007 5:06 pm  

LRF, you say: "It may seem...
LRF, you say: "It may seem that way but i have never benefited one dime from your forum".
We don't know about that and you are probably not aware of it either as people don't always mention how they get to know you. Anyway, it would not be a problem for us if you did benefit from the forum. If a participant of the forum, from his contributions, proves that he is competent, it is normal that he benefits from the confidence of the readers and that it sometimes leads to a commercial relation. What bothers us, is when you use the forum to clearly advertise your own business!
By the way, we have to admit that we are also getting tired of the regular marks of arrogance in your posts and your emails.
Some readers will probably find that our tone is more severe than usual, but they should know that it is also in reaction to emails that LRF has sent to us directly and that are definitely less pleasant than his interventions in the forum. Just a small example:
"I don't need any business from any one as I have more than enough. Judging from the readership you have it would not be worth advertising on Design addict"
If the judgement on our readership is quantitative, you will probably be interested in knowing that we will soon reach 5000 threads - 40000 posts and the readings counts per million. If this judgement is qualitative (what we fear), there is only one thing to say: we are very proud of the quality of our readership. During almost ten years of existence of DA, we have always been amazed by the knowledge and human qualities of the regulars on DA. Some became friends, and as for everybody, we do not like when one insults our friends.
Before acting as a disappointed customer for the quality service of Design Addict, perhaps LRF, you should ask yourself first how much you are paying for this service? Nothing!


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alexandersforum
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28/08/2007 5:49 pm  

"I don't need any business...
"I don't need any business from any one as I have more than enough. Judging from the readership you have it would not be worth advertising on Design addict"
-wow...
By the way, I just realized I missed a few , ; : ...'s myself. ...I'm not dyslexic, -just Swedish.


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Modern Love
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28/08/2007 7:35 pm  

Was this thread.....
La goutte d'eau qui fait déborder le vase?


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NULL NULL
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29/08/2007 2:48 am  

Very harsh comments.
Although I have been subjected to some nasty remarks by LRF I think that he has sincerely contributed to this forum and does not see this post as soliciting business. He has always tried to help others and although he is very opinionated he speaks his mind honestly and as he sees it. The stories he tells about his work and home are anecdotal and very often an attempt to pass on his experiences to the members of this forum that he views as family.
I have no connection with LRF and find many of his remarks quite nasty but I think he has been harshly judged based on personality not intent.


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Modern Love
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29/08/2007 3:24 am  

cumulative effect
De druppel die de emmer doet overlopen.


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