Was I right about this dining set I did Not get on Craigslist?

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chelle

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08/03/2013 5:11 am

So I'm a novice, but I've been trying to look and learn, since I want to buy me some nice furniture.
Although I was too slow to get this set on Craigslist, I was hoping some of you might tell me how far off I was on my thoughts about it. (If I can't have the chairs, maybe I can at least score a learning experience!)
First off I thought the chairs were Moller and I was ready to buy the set just for the chairs.
But the table and buffet confused me. I saw that there were those very nice finger joints on the edges, and it looks really well-constructed, but I never saw such a square-looking table and wondered if it might be a lot later in date.
So, do you think these chairs are Moller? And any ideas about the table and buffet?
Thank you!

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08/03/2013 5:46 am

Hmmm
These look like later, derivative designs to me... possibly 70s or 80s. The chairs are "Moller-inspired".

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08/03/2013 6:08 am

Very handsome
pieces, no matter what (or when). The doors seem to be solid wood, judging by the grain . . .

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08/03/2013 6:09 am

Oh good, thank you, I hope...
Oh good, thank you, I hope you're right, since that way I feel less disappointed! (Did I mention it was dirt cheap?)

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08/03/2013 6:22 am

SDR, do you say that because ...
SDR, do you say that because the grain is not book matched?

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08/03/2013 5:12 pm

The plinth base on the sideboard
is a clue to its vintage. They are cheaper to make and were a lot more common on later pieces when companies were cutting corners.
I think also the rounded edges...? Does that have to do with easier veneering?

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chelle

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08/03/2013 6:03 pm

Thank you.
And is the way you determine the chairs are not Moller the thickness of the wood on the rungs? Maybe a lack of rounded, tactile quality? Or something else I'm missing?

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08/03/2013 6:06 pm

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woodywood: the chairs are not "Møller-inspired", they are "Møller-made", it's the model 85.

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08/03/2013 6:08 pm

The model 85 has round legs, ...
The model 85 has round legs, and crisper edges on the seat back.

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chelle

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08/03/2013 6:37 pm

This is making me feel good,
that there's some disagreement about the chairs. I thought they were Moller 85, but a few things made me hesitate, including the things I mentioned above, and also I thought the tops of the legs appeared half squared off and half rounded, whereas the Moller chairs I saw on the web seemed to have cleaner flat tops.

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08/03/2013 7:10 pm

Definitely not Møller chairs!
Definitely not Møller chairs!

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08/03/2013 7:36 pm

That's right,
chelle. Also, you could look for the end grain of solid wood on the top edges of the doors . . .

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08/03/2013 8:03 pm

I'd put money on veneer, SDR.
You and I both know that there's no way a solid panel that size stays in plane without a properly proportioned frame or battens to restrict it.
Random-flitch leaves is a good indicator of middling quality at best. I'd also guess late '70's/early '80's vintage.

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08/03/2013 8:24 pm

As per the current JL Moller website . . .
. . . Model 85 was designed in 1981. Ergo, this "inspired" chair design probably surfaced within a few years afterwards.
It's always nice to still have active companies of mid century designs around for reference.
http://www.jlm.dk/

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chelle

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08/03/2013 8:30 pm

OK, so what do you see that tells you instantly --
Not Moller? I appreciate it.
And by the way, that link above shows chairs totally different from the 85s I've seen

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